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I just noticed that when using external view of one of my prop aircraft parts of the propeller are obscured by clouds and even trees when near ground level as if those scenery objects are between the propeller and the viewpoint.
It look really odd and I can live with it but would like to know what causes this.
Here is a screenshot to illustrate what I mean (note the cloud obscuring part of the propeller.
 

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Your model isn't fsx-native (MDLXMDLH). This problem you can find with FS9 (MDL8MDLH) models in FSX.
 
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Thanks Flatterman
I was confident that there would be a reason.
I thought that the model I downloaded (Premiere Aircraft) was FSX but maybe I downloaded the FS2004 version (mentioned in the docs).
I went back to the Premier Aircraft web site and downloaded 4 separate aircraft (of the same type but different textures and 2 float and 2 amphibian) for this aircraft all were described as 'complete package for FSX'. They all had the same 'problem'.
Maybe they are converted FS9 aircraft.
Could it also be that (according to the docs) "None of our models are compatible with DX10". I have DX11 installed.
 
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Hi John, there is a difference between FSX-native and FSX-compatible. Often payware (and freeware) distributers say "FSX-Model" and not allways this is true. BTW you can easily proof the model. Open the mdl-file of an aircraft with editor. You will see a lot of hieroglyphs but on the begin you can see the type of the model ( MDLXMDLH or MDL8MDLH or other). The answer about DX11 I can't give because I only use DX9;)
 
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jgarnold said:
Thanks Flatterman
I was confident that there would be a reason.
I thought that the model I downloaded (Premiere Aircraft) was FSX but maybe I downloaded the FS2004 version (mentioned in the docs).
I went back to the Premier Aircraft web site and downloaded 4 separate aircraft (of the same type but different textures and 2 float and 2 amphibian) for this aircraft all were described as 'complete package for FSX'. They all had the same 'problem'.
Maybe they are converted FS9 aircraft.
Could it also be that (according to the docs) "None of our models are compatible with DX10". I have DX11 installed.
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Hi,
In my experience Premier aircraft didn't use FSX models. When something was described as "FSX package" it was not backwards compatible for other reasons, e.g. special gauges or the dds textures.
 
jgarnold

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Thanks Christian and Dave,

Dave I clicked on your 'signature' and was impressed. Do you spend much time creating scenery objects?

I can live with this (as I don't use external view very often) but just wanted to find out why. I guess there are possibly other visual differences between FS9 and FSX aircraft.

Strangely I found another model (DHC3) recently which does not creep forward when engine (turbo prop) is idling which I now use. I had posted a separate thread sometime ago asking why the 'creep' and received a few replies none of which stopped it other than manually feathering the prop after entering a 'session' and then have to manually change the pitch before taxi/takeoff.
I had found and downloaded a few different aircraft (same type and supposedly from the same author but different textures and all looked the same outside and inside) and one doesn't creep so I use those aircraft and air files and add the textures from the other ones. The one which doesn't creep starts up with the prop pitched correctly and seemingly idling at the same speed so the differences are somewhere in the aircraft.cfg or air files. I really don't care as I now have 'solved' that problem (aircraft creeping forward at (session) startup.
There is so much to learn how all these things work and so little time to learn :)
John
 
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This is the reason I registered for this site. I spent 10 hours trying to fix a horrible problem with the sound of a Premier Dash-8 (ghastly phasing from calling duplicate sound files in the cfg) only to find out later that there is a catastrophic problem with the rendering of the spinning props against certain other textures or objects, which... apparently... can't be fixed because the model is FS9... I can't believe this problem is actually happening. I can't live with it because it completely ruins the experience when viewing the plane externally. Native FSX models for me from now on. Thanks, Flatterman for the model file info tip. Will save me some time sorting through the non-functional models looking for a solution. Found one being developed by a user on this site which I await with great hopes!
 
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