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Old 15 Jul 2010, 18:29
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Question Changes with ADE dont show up in sim
Hi guys,

Recently I have started using the Airport Design Editor 9x software with Flightsimulator X. So now I have a question How can I manage the get the changes of an airport to show up in fsx? I made some changes of an airport removed some buildings and Jetways but when I fire up at the airport the objects are still there I guess I am doing something wrong hehe. So I am making some changes and then I am saving it.
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Old 15 Jul 2010, 20:02
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Well, reading the manual would really help!

You have to Export/Compile the changes into a unique folder within the ..\Addon Scenery folder, such as:


P:\FSX\Addon Scenery\33MO_LeamingField\Scenery\33MO_ADEX_BL.BGL
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Old 16 Jul 2010, 00:34
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As Bill says, saving will not put the changes into FSX. You need to use File > Compile and save the compiled airport in your addon scenery area.

Also make sure that FSX is not running when you compile.
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Old 16 Jul 2010, 15:59
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Well, reading the manual would really help!

You have to Export/Compile the changes into a unique folder within the ..\Addon Scenery folder, such as:


P:\FSX\Addon Scenery\33MO_LeamingField\Scenery\33MO_ADEX_BL.BGL
okay so I got this file see attached and so now where am I supposed to put this file I cant manage to find anything in the manual
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Old 16 Jul 2010, 16:34
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okay so I got this file see attached and so now where am I supposed to put this file I cant manage to find anything in the manual
I have to repeat my last post. With you modified airport open in ADE - Go to the File menu and click Compile. When asked for a folder to save it in go to the Addon Scenery\scenery folder in your FSX setup and save it there. The .ad2 file is the ADE project file that ADE understands but FSX does not. The .bgl file that is created by File > Compile is understood by FSX and contains the changes you made.
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Old 19 Jul 2010, 16:47
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I have to repeat my last post. With you modified airport open in ADE - Go to the File menu and click Compile. When asked for a folder to save it in go to the Addon Scenery\scenery folder in your FSX setup and save it there. The .ad2 file is the ADE project file that ADE understands but FSX does not. The .bgl file that is created by File > Compile is understood by FSX and contains the changes you made.
Okay I got it now but just one more question so I removed all the buildings in the scenery just to try to make a fs2004 scenery work in fsx because when I install the fs9 scenery into fsx the fsx main scenery buildings allso show with the addon scenery. so now I onder is it possible to install the ADE changes and addon airports and make the both changes work together?
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Old 20 Jul 2010, 00:49
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Okay I got it now but just one more question so I removed all the buildings in the scenery just to try to make a fs2004 scenery work in fsx because when I install the fs9 scenery into fsx the fsx main scenery buildings allso show with the addon scenery. so now I onder is it possible to install the ADE changes and addon airports and make the both changes work together?
Maybe, but I think you should start with a simpler project untill you underestand ADE better. Using ADE to remove buildings, then installing the FS9 airport is not the way it works. Forget using the FS9 scenery and try to reproduce it in ADE.

Bob
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Old 24 Jul 2010, 13:16
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Maybe, but I think you should start with a simpler project untill you underestand ADE better. Using ADE to remove buildings, then installing the FS9 airport is not the way it works. Forget using the FS9 scenery and try to reproduce it in ADE.

Bob
okay but can allways try because it is a decisition of switching back to fs9 or keep fsx
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Old 24 Jul 2010, 18:40
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So tell us more of what you are trying to do so that we can help. Sometimes you have to break things down step by step.

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Old 25 Jul 2010, 06:23
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So tell us more of what you are trying to do so that we can help. Sometimes you have to break things down step by step.

Bob
okay I would like to use a fs9 scenery addon for fsx the scenery is only aviable for fs9. So now I want to make it work in fsx. The addon is Swedflight ESMS sturup. So when I put the addon files into the addon scenery folder in fsx and start it up the addon is there but the fsx deafult buildings and taxiways are allso there to it is like there are two diffirent scenery objects on each other. But if I can remove the fsx default scenry objects and correct the taxiways so that they fit with the addon scenery then it would be really good.

Greets Tim
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Old 25 Jul 2010, 06:59
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okay I would like to use a fs9 scenery addon for fsx the scenery is only aviable for fs9. So now I want to make it work in fsx. The addon is Swedflight ESMS sturup. So when I put the addon files into the addon scenery folder in fsx and start it up the addon is there but the fsx deafult buildings and taxiways are allso there to it is like there are two diffirent scenery objects on each other. But if I can remove the fsx default scenry objects and correct the taxiways so that they fit with the addon scenery then it would be really good.

Greets Tim
I would say you need to load the addon airport into ADEX and then Tools > Load Stock Data and load the scenery objects. The FSX buildings at the airport should then appear in the ADE project. Select each one and delete it using the Delete Key. Make sure to remove the original addon airport and then Compile the revised one in ADE and save it to Addon Scenery\Scenery. See if that helps. I do not know why you should get duplicate taxiways but if they are not gone then maybe the SwedFlight airport have been created with Gmax or similar, or possibly you have another file with this airport in your FSX installation.
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Old 26 Jul 2010, 09:57
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I would say you need to load the addon airport into ADEX and then Tools > Load Stock Data and load the scenery objects. The FSX buildings at the airport should then appear in the ADE project. Select each one and delete it using the Delete Key. Make sure to remove the original addon airport and then Compile the revised one in ADE and save it to Addon Scenery\Scenery. See if that helps. I do not know why you should get duplicate taxiways but if they are not gone then maybe the SwedFlight airport have been created with Gmax or similar, or possibly you have another file with this airport in your FSX installation.
ah okay thanks I will try that out and come back to say if it works
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Old 31 Jul 2010, 10:21
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I would say you need to load the addon airport into ADEX and then Tools > Load Stock Data and load the scenery objects. The FSX buildings at the airport should then appear in the ADE project. Select each one and delete it using the Delete Key. Make sure to remove the original addon airport and then Compile the revised one in ADE and save it to Addon Scenery\Scenery. See if that helps. I do not know why you should get duplicate taxiways but if they are not gone then maybe the SwedFlight airport have been created with Gmax or similar, or possibly you have another file with this airport in your FSX installation.
okay scruffy have been on vacation some days now but now I am back
So I have tried to compile the airport changes but I always get an list full with errors like this:





ScruffyDuck Scenery Design Engine Compiling
Using UNKNOWN BglComp....


Parsing document: C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Addon Scenery\scenery\ESMS_ADEX_FIRST.xml

INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2031: Failed element parse <BoundaryFence>
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2032: XML Parse Error! Element tree follows:

ERROR: <FSData
ERROR: version = 9.0
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Airport
ERROR: country = Sweden
ERROR: city = Malmo
ERROR: name = Sturup
ERROR: lat = 55.5483334511518
ERROR: lon = 13.353333324194
ERROR: alt = 71.932M
ERROR: magvar = -2.5
ERROR: trafficScalar = 0.7
ERROR: airportTestRadius = 5000.0M
ERROR: ident = ESMS
ERROR: >
ERROR: <BoundaryFence
ERROR: profile = {a3a491b1-ef49-47db-9c2b-080f48a5ea5d}
ERROR: >
ERROR:
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2031: Failed element parse <Vertex>
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2032: XML Parse Error! Element tree follows:

ERROR: <FSData
ERROR: version = 9.0
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Airport
ERROR: country = Sweden
ERROR: city = Malmo
ERROR: name = Sturup
ERROR: lat = 55.5483334511518
ERROR: lon = 13.353333324194
ERROR: alt = 71.932M
ERROR: magvar = -2.5
ERROR: trafficScalar = 0.7
ERROR: airportTestRadius = 5000.0M
ERROR: ident = ESMS
ERROR: >
ERROR: <BoundaryFence
ERROR: profile = {a3a491b1-ef49-47db-9c2b-080f48a5ea5d}
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Vertex
ERROR: lat = 55.5558332428336
ERROR: lon = 13.3688217401505
ERROR: >
ERROR:
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2031: Failed element parse <Vertex>
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2032: XML Parse Error! Element tree follows:

ERROR: <FSData
ERROR: version = 9.0
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Airport
ERROR: country = Sweden
ERROR: city = Malmo
ERROR: name = Sturup
ERROR: lat = 55.5483334511518
ERROR: lon = 13.353333324194
ERROR: alt = 71.932M
ERROR: magvar = -2.5
ERROR: trafficScalar = 0.7
ERROR: airportTestRadius = 5000.0M
ERROR: ident = ESMS
ERROR: >
ERROR: <BoundaryFence
ERROR: profile = {a3a491b1-ef49-47db-9c2b-080f48a5ea5d}
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Vertex
ERROR: lat = 55.5564206466079
ERROR: lon = 13.3753859996796
ERROR: >
ERROR:
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2031: Failed element parse <Vertex>
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2032: XML Parse Error! Element tree follows:

ERROR: <FSData
ERROR: version = 9.0
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Airport
ERROR: country = Sweden
ERROR: city = Malmo
ERROR: name = Sturup
ERROR: lat = 55.5483334511518
ERROR: lon = 13.353333324194
ERROR: alt = 71.932M
ERROR: magvar = -2.5
ERROR: trafficScalar = 0.7
ERROR: airportTestRadius = 5000.0M
ERROR: ident = ESMS
ERROR: >
ERROR: <BoundaryFence
ERROR: profile = {a3a491b1-ef49-47db-9c2b-080f48a5ea5d}
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Vertex
ERROR: lat = 55.5163930356503
ERROR: lon = 13.3841161429882
ERROR: >
ERROR:
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2031: Failed element parse <Vertex>
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2032: XML Parse Error! Element tree follows:

ERROR: <FSData
ERROR: version = 9.0
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Airport
ERROR: country = Sweden
ERROR: city = Malmo
ERROR: name = Sturup
ERROR: lat = 55.5483334511518
ERROR: lon = 13.353333324194
ERROR: alt = 71.932M
ERROR: magvar = -2.5
ERROR: trafficScalar = 0.7
ERROR: airportTestRadius = 5000.0M
ERROR: ident = ESMS
ERROR: >
ERROR: <BoundaryFence
ERROR: profile = {a3a491b1-ef49-47db-9c2b-080f48a5ea5d}
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Vertex
ERROR: lat = 55.5159652233124
ERROR: lon = 13.3769859373569
ERROR: >
ERROR:
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2031: Failed element parse <Vertex>
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2032: XML Parse Error! Element tree follows:

ERROR: <FSData
ERROR: version = 9.0
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Airport
ERROR: country = Sweden
ERROR: city = Malmo
ERROR: name = Sturup
ERROR: lat = 55.5483334511518
ERROR: lon = 13.353333324194
ERROR: alt = 71.932M
ERROR: magvar = -2.5
ERROR: trafficScalar = 0.7
ERROR: airportTestRadius = 5000.0M
ERROR: ident = ESMS
ERROR: >
ERROR: <BoundaryFence
ERROR: profile = {a3a491b1-ef49-47db-9c2b-080f48a5ea5d}
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Vertex
ERROR: lat = 55.5174142867327
ERROR: lon = 13.3766989409924
ERROR: >
ERROR:
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2031: Failed element parse <Vertex>
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2032: XML Parse Error! Element tree follows:

ERROR: <FSData
ERROR: version = 9.0
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Airport
ERROR: country = Sweden
ERROR: city = Malmo
ERROR: name = Sturup
ERROR: lat = 55.5483334511518
ERROR: lon = 13.353333324194
ERROR: alt = 71.932M
ERROR: magvar = -2.5
ERROR: trafficScalar = 0.7
ERROR: airportTestRadius = 5000.0M
ERROR: ident = ESMS
ERROR: >
ERROR: <BoundaryFence
ERROR: profile = {a3a491b1-ef49-47db-9c2b-080f48a5ea5d}
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Vertex
ERROR: lat = 55.5226496234536
ERROR: lon = 13.3498576283455
ERROR: >
ERROR:
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2031: Failed element parse <Vertex>
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2032: XML Parse Error! Element tree follows:

ERROR: <FSData
ERROR: version = 9.0
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Airport
ERROR: country = Sweden
ERROR: city = Malmo
ERROR: name = Sturup
ERROR: lat = 55.5483334511518
ERROR: lon = 13.353333324194
ERROR: alt = 71.932M
ERROR: magvar = -2.5
ERROR: trafficScalar = 0.7
ERROR: airportTestRadius = 5000.0M
ERROR: ident = ESMS
ERROR: >
ERROR: <BoundaryFence
ERROR: profile = {a3a491b1-ef49-47db-9c2b-080f48a5ea5d}
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Vertex
ERROR: lat = 55.5267986655235
ERROR: lon = 13.3520038425922
ERROR: >
ERROR:
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2031: Failed element parse <Vertex>
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2032: XML Parse Error! Element tree follows:

ERROR: <FSData
ERROR: version = 9.0
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Airport
ERROR: country = Sweden
ERROR: city = Malmo
ERROR: name = Sturup
ERROR: lat = 55.5483334511518
ERROR: lon = 13.353333324194
ERROR: alt = 71.932M
ERROR: magvar = -2.5
ERROR: trafficScalar = 0.7
ERROR: airportTestRadius = 5000.0M
ERROR: ident = ESMS
ERROR: >
ERROR: <BoundaryFence
ERROR: profile = {a3a491b1-ef49-47db-9c2b-080f48a5ea5d}
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Vertex
ERROR: lat = 55.5231579020619
ERROR: lon = 13.3735460042953
ERROR: >
ERROR:
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2031: Failed element parse <Vertex>
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2032: XML Parse Error! Element tree follows:

ERROR: <FSData
ERROR: version = 9.0
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Airport
ERROR: country = Sweden
ERROR: city = Malmo
ERROR: name = Sturup
ERROR: lat = 55.5483334511518
ERROR: lon = 13.353333324194
ERROR: alt = 71.932M
ERROR: magvar = -2.5
ERROR: trafficScalar = 0.7
ERROR: airportTestRadius = 5000.0M
ERROR: ident = ESMS
ERROR: >
ERROR: <BoundaryFence
ERROR: profile = {a3a491b1-ef49-47db-9c2b-080f48a5ea5d}
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Vertex
ERROR: lat = 55.5342813581228
ERROR: lon = 13.3713653683662
ERROR: >
ERROR:
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2031: Failed element parse <Vertex>
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2032: XML Parse Error! Element tree follows:

ERROR: <FSData
ERROR: version = 9.0
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Airport
ERROR: country = Sweden
ERROR: city = Malmo
ERROR: name = Sturup
ERROR: lat = 55.5483334511518
ERROR: lon = 13.353333324194
ERROR: alt = 71.932M
ERROR: magvar = -2.5
ERROR: trafficScalar = 0.7
ERROR: airportTestRadius = 5000.0M
ERROR: ident = ESMS
ERROR: >
ERROR: <BoundaryFence
ERROR: profile = {a3a491b1-ef49-47db-9c2b-080f48a5ea5d}
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Vertex
ERROR: lat = 55.5330874398351
ERROR: lon = 13.3609534800053
ERROR: >
ERROR:
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2031: Failed element parse <Vertex>
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2032: XML Parse Error! Element tree follows:

ERROR: <FSData
ERROR: version = 9.0
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Airport
ERROR: country = Sweden
ERROR: city = Malmo
ERROR: name = Sturup
ERROR: lat = 55.5483334511518
ERROR: lon = 13.353333324194
ERROR: alt = 71.932M
ERROR: magvar = -2.5
ERROR: trafficScalar = 0.7
ERROR: airportTestRadius = 5000.0M
ERROR: ident = ESMS
ERROR: >
ERROR: <BoundaryFence
ERROR: profile = {a3a491b1-ef49-47db-9c2b-080f48a5ea5d}
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Vertex
ERROR: lat = 55.5434461310506
ERROR: lon = 13.3588452637196
ERROR: >
ERROR:
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2031: Failed element parse <Vertex>
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2032: XML Parse Error! Element tree follows:

ERROR: <FSData
ERROR: version = 9.0
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Airport
ERROR: country = Sweden
ERROR: city = Malmo
ERROR: name = Sturup
ERROR: lat = 55.5483334511518
ERROR: lon = 13.353333324194
ERROR: alt = 71.932M
ERROR: magvar = -2.5
ERROR: trafficScalar = 0.7
ERROR: airportTestRadius = 5000.0M
ERROR: ident = ESMS
ERROR: >
ERROR: <BoundaryFence
ERROR: profile = {a3a491b1-ef49-47db-9c2b-080f48a5ea5d}
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Vertex
ERROR: lat = 55.5442404001951
ERROR: lon = 13.3707377314568
ERROR: >
ERROR:
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2031: Failed element parse <Vertex>
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2032: XML Parse Error! Element tree follows:

ERROR: <FSData
ERROR: version = 9.0
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Airport
ERROR: country = Sweden
ERROR: city = Malmo
ERROR: name = Sturup
ERROR: lat = 55.5483334511518
ERROR: lon = 13.353333324194
ERROR: alt = 71.932M
ERROR: magvar = -2.5
ERROR: trafficScalar = 0.7
ERROR: airportTestRadius = 5000.0M
ERROR: ident = ESMS
ERROR: >
ERROR: <BoundaryFence
ERROR: profile = {a3a491b1-ef49-47db-9c2b-080f48a5ea5d}
ERROR: >
ERROR: <Vertex
ERROR: lat = 55.5558332428336
ERROR: lon = 13.3688217401505
ERROR: >
ERROR:
INTERNAL COMPILER ERROR: #C2607: Compilation errors detected, compilation failed!


Parse complete!




So I guess all the ERRORS are not goo right hehe
Maybe you could help me out

Cheers/Tim
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Old 31 Jul 2010, 10:43
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Well your problem is that you are using the BglComp that comes with the original FSX DVD - this has a bug that stops fences being compiled. You need to update your SDK to at least SP1A - http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...a-647b7e28f212

PS If I had a $1.00 for every time this has been reported since the release of FSX I would be retired and living in luxury It is in the FAQ....
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Well your problem is that you are using the BglComp that comes with the original FSX DVD - this has a bug that stops fences being compiled. You need to update your SDK to at least SP1A - http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...a-647b7e28f212

PS If I had a $1.00 for every time this has been reported since the release of FSX I would be retired and living in luxury It is in the FAQ....
hehe okay thanks will keep you updated
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