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FS2004 Analyse Parking greyed

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I installed AIG Turkish Airlines Summer 2015.
Works fine, but the button "Analyse Parking" remains greyed for some airports (such as LTBA).
Time table works, Parking peaks work too...

By the way, the reroute function works great, only the warning of "saving the dataset" does not appear when exit AIFP3.
 
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The Analyse Parking button will be disabled under three conditions:
  • the airport is not available on your system as an add-on or stock airport,
  • the flight plan does not use any parking at that airport,
  • the local time offset from GMT is not known for that airport
If none of these conditions are true, please send me a link to the flight plan archive so that I can attempt to duplicate.

I'll check why the save warning is not issued after a reroute, and fix in the next release.

Don

EDIT: BTW Herman, I found a link to those flightplans. While I did find another problem with the Traffic Analyser, the Analyse Parking button was enabled on my system when I selected LTBA. Are there other airports where that button isn't enabled?
 
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I confess the scenery is a little complex.

I had to modify a freeware airport of LTBAby ADE9 with "split compile", because there were to many aprons to compile.
And I had to rename the ADE bgl with the parkings to zzzzz.....bgl to control the sequence of loading.

So you could not find it, I believe...
 
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For AI, AIFP and, I suspect, most other Flightsim features/applications to work, the parking must be in the main airport file along with the runways and taxiways. The name of the file doesn't matter.

Don
 
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What is the significant property of the main airport file in your opinion?

How do you find this file?
 
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What I refer to as the "main airport file" is the .bgl file generated by ADE that contains the <Airport> record including the airport definition data, runways, taxiways and parking. You have referred to a "split compile" which (apparently from your post) allows aprons to be included in another .bgl file. I know nothing about this capability and have never used it.

However many files there are, the parking must be defined in the same one as the runways and taxiways and that file must define an airport having the same ICAO designator as the flight plans.

Don
 
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I have 7 bgls which meet this properties in my scenery folder (and are shown if I use AFCAD2 to find "LTBA")
 

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You need to enter the ICAO code for the airport that has the parking spots. If LTBA is not that one, enter the overlay code. If they both have parking spots, I don't know how AIFP can combine those, if it can. AITM can do that (enter the ICAO codes separated by commas).
 
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If you have checked Stock in the Airport groupbox on the Traffic Analyser, then AIFP will use the stock airport. (Doesn't matter what's enabled in your Scenery Library. If you check Add-on, then you have to tell AIFP which add-on airport you want it to reference. Once again, it doesn't matter what's enabled in your Scenery Library.

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No, I am not be asked...
:(

But if I deactivate 6 of my 7 bgls and let only ZZZZ01.bgl in the scenery folder, "Analise Parking" is active and works fine.

:)
 
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Herman, when I click the add-on checkbox, I get a message "Add-on airport file not yet located. Do you wish to locate it? If you didn't get that message, then you must have checked the Airports menu item "Look for Add-On Airports in Scenery Library" - in which case AIFP would already have known where to find the add-on airport. The Traffic Analyser Airport menu has several functions related to the specification of add-on airports. Their purpose is described in Section 11.1 of the user manual.

AIFP searches the active Scenery Library items looking for a .airport .bgl file for the designated airport. It does not expect to find more than 1, so stops the search immediately upon finding the first. By naming the main airport .bgl "ZZZZZ" in this case, you ensured that AIFP would not find that file if there was another airport .bgl in the scenery folder. Because this is such an unusual situation and the time it takes to analyse every .bgl contained in every active scenery folder (resulting in "dead time" from the point of view of the user), I am reluctant to search the entire library every time. What I may be able to do (since Jon apparently has enabled this capability in ADE), is ensure the "found" add-on contains parking.

In the meantime, if you name your main airport .bgl, or alternately, name your additional airport files, such that the main file will be analysed first (standard files sequencing is observed), I think you'll find the Traffic Analyser will perform normally.

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if you name your main airport .bgl, or alternately, name your additional airport files, such that the main file will be analysed first (standard files sequencing is observed),
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Oops!. Can't do that - unless it also contains the DeleteAirport code - since all parking - and whatever else is in that file - would be excluded by the Delete Airport functions in another of those .bgls. If the DeleteAirport code in in the same file as the parking, then it MUST be listed first or all the rest will be excluded when you run FS.

You might want to check Jon's instructions very carefully.

Don
 
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Yes, it was necessary to name these bgls like I did to get the bgls loaded in the right sequence...

But don't worry any more about it. If I want the parking analysed, I move the 6 bgls to a subfolder of the scenery folder and move them back later.

Thanks for your help and great programs.
 
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You're too late. I've already implemented the fix and am about to make a development release which I hope you'll test. (If Jon's made this a standard feature of ADE, then you are only the first to have run into this difficulty.) In any case, you shouldn't need to be concerned about any bgls which do not contain an airport record, e.g., CVX, _GP)

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"_GP" also applies to FS9.

Development Release 3.1.16(c) is now available at http://stuff4fs.com. Please put all 7 .bgls back into the Addon Scenery folder, check the mentioned Airport menu item and give it a try. The first encountered .bgl with an airport record containing at least one parking space should be selected automatically.

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Okay, sorry to say, it does not work, analyse parking remains greyed, even if I try to use "stock airport".

The timetable seems to work, but it takes much longer till it is ready.

Perhaps you can use my ltba.zip files for testing (just a new scenery folder and an empty texture folder should do it)
 
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The changes I made would have no effect on the status of that button. The purpose of the change was to select an add-on file containing parking - which it does for me. I mentioned very early in this thread the possible causes of that button being disabled.

Yes, I need your files in order to go any further. Please include all 7 .bgl files as well as the traffic file you are attempting to analyse. You can attach to a post or e-mail to don at stuff4fs dot com.

Don
 
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