• Which the release of FS2020 we see an explosition of activity on the forun and of course we are very happy to see this. But having all questions about FS2020 in one forum becomes a bit messy. So therefore we would like to ask you all to use the following guidelines when posting your questions:

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FS Developers Association

mgavioli said:
But, independently and beyond the current certificate issue, is this association / group / lobby ;) only for developers doing (also) freeware or greedy rascals only doing payware like me are accepted too?
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I must say we have not really thought long about that. As you can see from the names in this discussion there are already people involved who also do payware. So I don't see it as freeware only.

But apart from the certificate issue, I think we have no clear idea yet how this will develop on the longer term. Any input and suggestions are welcome I would say :).
 
My opinion is that the FSDevelopers association should be open to any and all developers, commercial or freeware, to join its ranks. The biggest strength of the association should be its membership and its sense of community.

I know commercial developers compete against each other (in a sense), but there's no reason why we shouldn't form an association, if nothing else, to help others who are now starting (remember how we all started?)

I'll have more news about our first goals / charter member agreement very soon!

Best,
Lefteris
 
Code sign isn't really a problem. I'm sure that it will be easy to develop a simple framework adapted to gauge, dll and manifest code sign.

José
 
There any chance of resurrecting this idea?

Is it still something people are interested in? I'm more than happy to put time/resources and a bit of cash in if that's the problem.

I think this could be so beneficial to the developer community it shouldn't be just left of the shelf if its viable.

Alex
 
Hi Alex,

It seems this idea is sleeping a bit now, but if other people are still interested in it, I am sure we could continue the discussion.
 
I see two areas of potential concern
  • Equitably distributing costs amongst the developers who participate
  • Ensuring the quality of the code being signed
The latter is a bigger concern, IMO. Let's say I'm a useless developer who's gauges and DLL's cause havok on any machine that they are installed upon. If I'm allowed to sign my rubbish with the community certificate, then pretty soon users will be very unwilling to accept or install any products signed with this certificate. So the reputation of all you wonderful developers out their who create wonderful products are now tainted by my rubbish-code.
So, perhaps we need to have a code-review committee - and coding standards that users must meet for products to be signed with the community certificate. Some might object to this as big-brotherish, and some payware developers may not participate on order to protect their intellectual property, but it could potentially help the entire freeware community by raising the quality of the freeware - and I suspect that FSXI will be much less forgiving of poor code and lack of adherance to SDK standards than previous versions of the sim.

Thanks for reading. Thoughts?
- regards, jed
PS: Of course I never, ever write "rubbish-code". All my work is 100% error & bug free. Honest! <grin> :wizard:
 
What legal safeguards and laws are there that anyone collecting personal information about other people (passport scans etc.) need to abide by? You could find yourself falling foul of data protection laws, etc. if you don't have the right safeguards in place. You might even find that you need to declare yourself and your database to government authorities, put procedures and policies in place, open yourself to audits, etc.

It's probably nothing like this onerous, but it's worth looking into.

Si
 
Simon,

Sadly, in a previous life, I was a Data Protection officer for a large company. Due to many years of soul destroying tedium I can confidently say that It wouldn't cause too much trouble.

Alex
 
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