General FSX Planner problems

SGT MattyW · 18 Jul 2007

Hi all,
I am having some small problems with my re-designed airport.

1) Taxiway markings
I need all the center lines on my taxiways to stop at the hold short marks, so I set the path between the hold short mark and the runway to false/no for everything. This sortof worked. I have 3 taxiways linking the runway with the taxiway parallel to it. 2 of these taxiways have the center line stop before reaching the runway, and one of them has the center line overrun onto the runway. Does anyone have any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

2) Airport movement
I know, and have successfully moved the airport slightly east in FSX Planner, and that has worked great. I need to know how to move the grass area underneath the airport too, if anyone knows how.

Cheers for any advice,
SGT MattyW

rf360m · 18 Jul 2007

SGT MattyW said:
Hi all,
I am having some small problems with my re-designed airport.

1) Taxiway markings
I need all the center lines on my taxiways to stop at the hold short marks, so I set the path between the hold short mark and the runway to false/no for everything. This sortof worked. I have 3 taxiways linking the runway with the taxiway parallel to it. 2 of these taxiways have the center line stop before reaching the runway, and one of them has the center line overrun onto the runway. Does anyone have any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

Can you post the XML for the airport?

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2) Airport movement
I know, and have successfully moved the airport slightly east in FSX Planner, and that has worked great. I need to know how to move the grass area underneath the airport too, if anyone knows how.

I think you will probably need a tool like SBuilderX to move the terrain around.

-Russell

SGT MattyW · 19 Jul 2007

Here is my XML code.

Code:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
<!-- Created with FSX Planner [R 20] -->
<!-- FSX Planner is freely available here: www.zbluesoftware.com/clients/FSXPlanner.zip -->
<FSData
	version="9.0"
	xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
	xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="bglcomp.xsd">
	<Airport
		country="Netherlands Antilles"
		city="Saba"
		name="Juancho Yrausquin"
		lat="17.6452961588"
		lon="-63.2216513157"
		alt="4.572M"
		magvar="13.0"
		ident="SABA"
		trafficScalar="0.7"
		airportTestRadius="20000.0M">
		<DeleteAirport
			deleteAllApronLights="TRUE"
			deleteAllAprons="TRUE"
			deleteAllFrequencies="TRUE"
			deleteAllHelipads="TRUE"
			deleteAllRunways="TRUE"
			deleteAllStarts="TRUE"
			deleteAllTaxiways="TRUE"
			deleteAllBlastFences="TRUE"
			deleteAllBoundaryFences="TRUE"
			deleteAllControlTowers="TRUE"/>
		<Aprons>
			<Apron
				surface="CONCRETE"
				drawSurface="TRUE"
				drawDetail="TRUE">
				<Vertex
					lat="17.64441032770758"
					lon="-63.22414465433712"/>
				<Vertex
					lat="17.64394302909163"
					lon="-63.22433237373951"/>
				<Vertex
					lat="17.64333700119906"
					lon="-63.22258926500294"/>
				<Vertex
					lat="17.64380429981501"
					lon="-63.22242836265801"/>
			</Apron>
		</Aprons>
		<Runway
			lat="17.6443654322718"
			lon="-63.2225923240294"
			alt="4.572M"
			surface="ASPHALT"
			heading="111.0"
			length="416.24M"
			width="18.29M"
			number="12"
			designator="NONE"
			patternAltitude="800.0F"
			primaryTakeoff="TRUE"
			primaryLanding="TRUE"
			primaryPattern="LEFT"
			secondaryTakeoff="TRUE"
			secondaryLanding="TRUE"
			secondaryPattern="RIGHT"
			primaryMarkingBias="0.0M"
			secondaryMarkingBias="0.0M">
			<Markings
				alternateThreshold="FALSE"
				alternateTouchdown="FALSE"
				alternateFixedDistance="FALSE"
				alternatePrecision="FALSE"
				leadingZeroIdent="TRUE"
				noThresholdEndArrows="TRUE"
				edges="FALSE"
				threshold="FALSE"
				touchdown="FALSE"
				dashes="TRUE"
				ident="TRUE"
				precision="FALSE"
				edgePavement="TRUE"
				singleEnd="FALSE"
				primaryClosed="TRUE"
				secondaryClosed="TRUE"
				primaryStol="FALSE"
				secondaryStol="FALSE"/>
			<Lights
				center="MEDIUM"
				edge="LOW"
				centerRed="FALSE"/>
			<OffsetThreshold
				end="PRIMARY"
				length="20.0M"
				width="18.29M"
				surface="CONCRETE"/>
			<OffsetThreshold
				end="SECONDARY"
				length="20.0M"
				width="18.29M"
				surface="CONCRETE"/>
		</Runway>
		<Start
			type="RUNWAY"
			lat="17.64500817174066"
			lon="-63.22434947947638"
			alt="4.572M"
			heading="111.0"
			number="12"
			designator="NONE"/>
		<Start
			type="RUNWAY"
			lat="17.6437193443452"
			lon="-63.22083433833259"
			alt="4.572M"
			heading="291.0"
			number="30"
			designator="NONE"/>
		<TaxiwayPoint
			index="10"
			type="NORMAL"
			lat="17.64439730369567"
			lon="-63.22267131697146"/>
		<TaxiwayPoint
			index="11"
			type="HOLD_SHORT"
			orientation="FORWARD"
			lat="17.64425404076452"
			lon="-63.22272795025795"/>
		<TaxiwayPoint
			index="12"
			type="NORMAL"
			lat="17.64376354816286"
			lon="-63.22095526634734"/>
		<TaxiwayPoint
			index="13"
			type="NORMAL"
			lat="17.64337122202549"
			lon="-63.22110482136637"/>
		<TaxiwayPoint
			index="16"
			type="NORMAL"
			lat="17.64497398638157"
			lon="-63.22423704277458"/>
		<TaxiwayPoint
			index="18"
			type="NORMAL"
			lat="17.64456645774943"
			lon="-63.22439936683925"/>
		<TaxiwayPoint
			index="19"
			type="HOLD_SHORT"
			orientation="FORWARD"
			lat="17.64480261722132"
			lon="-63.22430598575605"/>
		<TaxiwayPoint
			index="20"
			type="HOLD_SHORT"
			orientation="FORWARD"
			lat="17.64362837751618"
			lon="-63.22100711630483"/>
		<TaxiwayPoint
			index="24"
			type="NORMAL"
			lat="17.64398977427413"
			lon="-63.22283209583789"/>
		<TaxiwayPoint
			index="31"
			type="NORMAL"
			lat="17.64388937791438"
			lon="-63.22255617178104"/>
		<TaxiwayPoint
			index="32"
			type="NORMAL"
			lat="17.64409017057741"
			lon="-63.22311121247371"/>
		<TaxiwayPoint
			index="33"
			type="NORMAL"
			lat="17.64420628735839"
			lon="-63.2234317705368"/>
		<TaxiwayPoint
			index="34"
			type="NORMAL"
			lat="17.64431238799069"
			lon="-63.22372448382934"/>
		<TaxiwayPoint
			index="35"
			type="NORMAL"
			lat="17.6444201999235"
			lon="-63.22402078869602"/>
		<TaxiwayParking
			index="25"
			lat="17.6435065794458"
			lon="-63.22269710785356"
			heading="200.0"
			radius="10.0M"
			type="GATE_SMALL"
			name="PARKING"
			number="6"
			pushBack="BOTH"/>
		<TaxiwayParking
			index="26"
			lat="17.64359694492002"
			lon="-63.22297989719142"
			heading="200.0"
			radius="10.0M"
			type="GATE_SMALL"
			name="PARKING"
			number="5"
			pushBack="BOTH"/>
		<TaxiwayParking
			index="27"
			lat="17.64370810206362"
			lon="-63.22326716212925"
			heading="200.0"
			radius="10.0M"
			type="GATE_SMALL"
			name="PARKING"
			number="4"
			pushBack="BOTH"/>
		<TaxiwayParking
			index="28"
			lat="17.64381543476224"
			lon="-63.22357747393255"
			heading="200.0"
			radius="10.0M"
			type="GATE_SMALL"
			name="PARKING"
			number="3"
			pushBack="BOTH"/>
		<TaxiwayParking
			index="29"
			lat="17.64392276746086"
			lon="-63.2238762927061"
			heading="200.0"
			radius="10.0M"
			type="GATE_SMALL"
			name="PARKING"
			number="2"
			pushBack="BOTH"/>
		<TaxiwayParking
			index="30"
			lat="17.64402352876977"
			lon="-63.22417051426773"
			heading="200.0"
			radius="10.0M"
			type="GATE_SMALL"
			name="PARKING"
			number="1"
			pushBack="BOTH"/>
		<TaxiwayPath
			type="TAXI"
			start="11"
			end="10"
			width="15.0M"
			weightLimit="500000"
			surface="CONCRETE"
			drawSurface="FALSE"
			drawDetail="FALSE"
			centerLine="FALSE"
			centerLineLighted="FALSE"
			leftEdge="NONE"
			leftEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			rightEdge="NONE"
			rightEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			name="0"/>
		<TaxiwayPath
			type="PARKING"
			start="35"
			end="30"
			width="15.0M"
			weightLimit="500000"
			surface="CONCRETE"
			drawSurface="TRUE"
			drawDetail="TRUE"
			centerLine="TRUE"
			centerLineLighted="FALSE"
			leftEdge="NONE"
			leftEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			rightEdge="NONE"
			rightEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			name="0"/>
		<TaxiwayPath
			type="PARKING"
			start="34"
			end="29"
			width="15.0M"
			weightLimit="500000"
			surface="CONCRETE"
			drawSurface="TRUE"
			drawDetail="TRUE"
			centerLine="TRUE"
			centerLineLighted="FALSE"
			leftEdge="NONE"
			leftEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			rightEdge="NONE"
			rightEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			name="0"/>
		<TaxiwayPath
			type="PARKING"
			start="33"
			end="28"
			width="15.0M"
			weightLimit="500000"
			surface="CONCRETE"
			drawSurface="TRUE"
			drawDetail="TRUE"
			centerLine="TRUE"
			centerLineLighted="FALSE"
			leftEdge="NONE"
			leftEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			rightEdge="NONE"
			rightEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			name="0"/>
		<TaxiwayPath
			type="PARKING"
			start="32"
			end="27"
			width="15.0M"
			weightLimit="500000"
			surface="CONCRETE"
			drawSurface="TRUE"
			drawDetail="TRUE"
			centerLine="TRUE"
			centerLineLighted="FALSE"
			leftEdge="NONE"
			leftEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			rightEdge="NONE"
			rightEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			name="0"/>
		<TaxiwayPath
			type="PARKING"
			start="31"
			end="25"
			width="15.0M"
			weightLimit="500000"
			surface="CONCRETE"
			drawSurface="TRUE"
			drawDetail="TRUE"
			centerLine="TRUE"
			centerLineLighted="FALSE"
			leftEdge="NONE"
			leftEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			rightEdge="NONE"
			rightEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			name="0"/>
		<TaxiwayPath
			type="TAXI"
			start="31"
			end="13"
			width="15.0M"
			weightLimit="500000"
			surface="CONCRETE"
			drawSurface="TRUE"
			drawDetail="TRUE"
			centerLine="TRUE"
			centerLineLighted="TRUE"
			leftEdge="NONE"
			leftEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			rightEdge="NONE"
			rightEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			name="0"/>
		<TaxiwayPath
			type="TAXI"
			start="24"
			end="31"
			width="15.0M"
			weightLimit="500000"
			surface="CONCRETE"
			drawSurface="TRUE"
			drawDetail="TRUE"
			centerLine="TRUE"
			centerLineLighted="TRUE"
			leftEdge="NONE"
			leftEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			rightEdge="NONE"
			rightEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			name="0"/>
		<TaxiwayPath
			type="TAXI"
			start="32"
			end="24"
			width="15.0M"
			weightLimit="500000"
			surface="CONCRETE"
			drawSurface="TRUE"
			drawDetail="TRUE"
			centerLine="TRUE"
			centerLineLighted="TRUE"
			leftEdge="NONE"
			leftEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			rightEdge="NONE"
			rightEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			name="0"/>
		<TaxiwayPath
			type="TAXI"
			start="33"
			end="32"
			width="15.0M"
			weightLimit="500000"
			surface="CONCRETE"
			drawSurface="TRUE"
			drawDetail="TRUE"
			centerLine="TRUE"
			centerLineLighted="TRUE"
			leftEdge="NONE"
			leftEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			rightEdge="NONE"
			rightEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			name="0"/>
		<TaxiwayPath
			type="TAXI"
			start="34"
			end="33"
			width="15.0M"
			weightLimit="500000"
			surface="CONCRETE"
			drawSurface="TRUE"
			drawDetail="TRUE"
			centerLine="TRUE"
			centerLineLighted="TRUE"
			leftEdge="NONE"
			leftEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			rightEdge="NONE"
			rightEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			name="0"/>
		<TaxiwayPath
			type="TAXI"
			start="35"
			end="34"
			width="15.0M"
			weightLimit="500000"
			surface="CONCRETE"
			drawSurface="TRUE"
			drawDetail="TRUE"
			centerLine="TRUE"
			centerLineLighted="TRUE"
			leftEdge="NONE"
			leftEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			rightEdge="NONE"
			rightEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			name="0"/>
		<TaxiwayPath
			type="TAXI"
			start="18"
			end="35"
			width="15.0M"
			weightLimit="500000"
			surface="CONCRETE"
			drawSurface="TRUE"
			drawDetail="TRUE"
			centerLine="TRUE"
			centerLineLighted="TRUE"
			leftEdge="NONE"
			leftEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			rightEdge="NONE"
			rightEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			name="0"/>
		<TaxiwayPath
			type="PARKING"
			start="24"
			end="26"
			width="15.0M"
			weightLimit="500000"
			surface="CONCRETE"
			drawSurface="TRUE"
			drawDetail="TRUE"
			centerLine="TRUE"
			centerLineLighted="FALSE"
			leftEdge="NONE"
			leftEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			rightEdge="NONE"
			rightEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			name="0"/>
		<TaxiwayPath
			type="TAXI"
			start="24"
			end="11"
			width="15.0M"
			weightLimit="500000"
			surface="CONCRETE"
			drawSurface="TRUE"
			drawDetail="TRUE"
			centerLine="TRUE"
			centerLineLighted="TRUE"
			leftEdge="NONE"
			leftEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			rightEdge="NONE"
			rightEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			name="0"/>
		<TaxiwayPath
			type="TAXI"
			start="20"
			end="12"
			width="15.0M"
			weightLimit="500000"
			surface="CONCRETE"
			drawSurface="FALSE"
			drawDetail="FALSE"
			centerLine="FALSE"
			centerLineLighted="FALSE"
			leftEdge="NONE"
			leftEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			rightEdge="NONE"
			rightEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			name="0"/>
		<TaxiwayPath
			type="TAXI"
			start="13"
			end="20"
			width="15.0M"
			weightLimit="500000"
			surface="CONCRETE"
			drawSurface="TRUE"
			drawDetail="TRUE"
			centerLine="TRUE"
			centerLineLighted="TRUE"
			leftEdge="NONE"
			leftEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			rightEdge="NONE"
			rightEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			name="0"/>
		<TaxiwayPath
			type="TAXI"
			start="19"
			end="16"
			width="15.0M"
			weightLimit="500000"
			surface="CONCRETE"
			drawSurface="FALSE"
			drawDetail="FALSE"
			centerLine="FALSE"
			centerLineLighted="FALSE"
			leftEdge="NONE"
			leftEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			rightEdge="NONE"
			rightEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			name="0"/>
		<TaxiwayPath
			type="TAXI"
			start="18"
			end="19"
			width="15.0M"
			weightLimit="500000"
			surface="CONCRETE"
			drawSurface="TRUE"
			drawDetail="TRUE"
			centerLine="TRUE"
			centerLineLighted="TRUE"
			leftEdge="NONE"
			leftEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			rightEdge="NONE"
			rightEdgeLighted="FALSE"
			name="0"/>
		<TaxiName
			index="0"
			name=""/>
		<TaxiwaySign
			lat="17.6440056782797"
			lon="-63.22262293094926"
			heading="21.0"
			label="lAdB&gt;"
			justification="LEFT"
			size="SIZE2"/>
		<TaxiwaySign
			lat="17.64476496860986"
			lon="-63.22421619625296"
			heading="113.0"
			label="r12-30"
			justification="LEFT"
			size="SIZE2"/>
		<TaxiwaySign
			lat="17.64365172983874"
			lon="-63.22110590487379"
			heading="109.0"
			label="r12-30"
			justification="LEFT"
			size="SIZE2"/>
		<TaxiwaySign
			lat="17.64427023088604"
			lon="-63.22281798884056"
			heading="109.0"
			label="r12-30"
			justification="LEFT"
			size="SIZE2"/>
		<TaxiwaySign
			lat="17.64411905796813"
			lon="-63.22268444298137"
			heading="289.0"
			label="lBd&lt;A&gt;"
			justification="LEFT"
			size="SIZE2"/>
		<TaxiwaySign
			lat="17.64414067837958"
			lon="-63.22299233742594"
			heading="201.0"
			label="d&lt;BlA"
			justification="LEFT"
			size="SIZE2"/>
		<Tower
			lat="17.64433067427182"
			lon="-63.22431790038087"
			alt="4.572M">
			<SceneryObject
				lat="17.6443306743"
				lon="-63.2243179004"
				alt="4.572000026702881M"
				altitudeIsAgl="FALSE"
				pitch="0.0"
				bank="0.0"
				heading="50.0"
				imageComplexity="VERY_SPARSE">
				<LibraryObject
					name="{7e6ceef0-7ff4-4738-898f-293e4a5fedb6}"
					scale="1.0"/>
			</SceneryObject>
		</Tower>
		<Com
			frequency="122.8"
			type="UNICOM"
			name=""/>
	</Airport>
	<SceneryObject
		lat="17.64372873726639"
		lon="-63.22162541214762"
		alt="4.572M"
		altitudeIsAgl="FALSE"
		pitch="0.0"
		bank="0.0"
		heading="0.0"
		imageComplexity="SPARSE">
		<Windsock
			lighted="TRUE"
			poleHeight="5.5"
			sockLength="3.5">
			<PoleColor
				blue="128"
				green="128"
				red="128"/>
			<SockColor
				blue="128"
				green="128"
				red="255"/>
		</Windsock>
	</SceneryObject>
</FSData>

GHD · 19 Jul 2007

SGT MattyW said:
I need to know how to move the grass area underneath the airport too, if anyone knows how.

Probably the easiest way to do it is to create a grass apron.

jvile · 20 Jul 2007

1) Taxiway markings
I need all the center lines on my taxiways to stop at the hold short marks, so I set the path between the hold short mark and the runway to false/no for everything. This sortof worked. I have 3 taxiways linking the runway with the taxiway parallel to it. 2 of these taxiways have the center line stop before reaching the runway, and one of them has the center line overrun onto the runway. Does anyone have any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

That requires placing several additional nodes in front of or behind the hold short node so you can tweak the center line length and side line draws if needed.

Presently the best way to do this is work your taxiways using AFCAD and then copy out of the AFCAD the taxiway point and taxiway path structure and overwrite the XML in FSXPlanner.

In due time I am sure airport utilities will start to show various techniques on displaying default line draws with a good visual model on the Graphical screen.

José · 20 Jul 2007

New flatten

Hi,

SGT MattyW said:
Hi all,

2) Airport movement
I know, and have successfully moved the airport slightly east in FSX Planner, and that has worked great. I need to know how to move the grass area underneath the airport too, if anyone knows how.

Cheers for any advice,
SGT MattyW

The original grass polygon is the flatten MS created for your airport and cannot simply be moved.
It's necessary to make the area plain and to prevent (avoid) autogen (buildings and trees).

If you want to move the airport elements besides that flatten polygon, you should exclude the old one and create a new flatten polygon. For that, you can use SBuilderX.

Regards,

José

José · 20 Jul 2007

Hi,

Your SABA airport is on a volcanic island, as the above image depicts. The FSX runway is displaced about 260 meters from the real position.

The landclass background for that airport is not grass, certainly.

It's a very beautiful place. Go ahead and move it to the right position. It deserves.

Regards,

José

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SGT MattyW

GHD

jvile

José

José