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FS2004 Duplication of navaids

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Hi,

According to AIP of Taiwan, the position and frequency of HLG VOR has been moved and is different from the FS9 stock one.

To make map / flight planner work as usual, I've created another BGL that contains the new HLG VOR and necessary way points for routes that make the re-positioned A1 / W4 airways display correctly (although the old routes cannot be deleted).

However, in order to create approaches of nearby airports (related to HLG VOR), I have to create another HLG VOR in ADE since ADE could only reference to stock navaids, not the BGL I've created. This results in duplication of HLG VOR in the map view as attachment.

Is there an alternative way to prevent from duplicating? There might be many other airports which also reference to HLG VOR for its approaches and may cause more duplicated ones.

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There is no single stock bgl file when working with FS9/FSX navaids.

VOR's, NDB's, Route structure Waypoints and Scenery Objects for the navaids are in various bgl files.

You can exclude any scenery object associated with the navaid but you cannot exclude the actual transmitter.

We can only assume Microsoft placed navaids so they could not be moved since the Victor and Jet Airways are attached to a VOR or a companion VOR named Waypoint. If you zoom in and look real close at the stock VOR HLG you will see the HLG WAYPOINT that Jet airway A1 and W4 are attached too.

If you move the HLG VOR and HL NDB they will duplicate and FS will crash if you open the Map Mode/GPS. This is just one reason ADE does not allow moving many different types of Navaids and reads the stock which is locked.

So the question is,

Can a Navaid be moved? Yes with a good knowledge of where all the data is located, what utilities are needed to access the bgl's, working with XML, validating the XML so the stock bgl's do not become corrupt and use of compilers that will show any error codes.
 
If it were me, I would leave the airways as they are. They are close enough to not affect any navigation.

I would then add new navaids at the new locations and give them different names and IDs.

You can then build your approaches off of the new navaids.

Is this accurate to the RW? No.

Will it work in the sim? Yes.

Will it work with complex addon aircraft that use current navaid data? Maybe not.

Such is life with a flight sim and not an airport sim.

cheers,
Lane
 
jvile said:
There is no single stock bgl file when working with FS9/FSX navaids.

VOR's, NDB's, Route structure Waypoints and Scenery Objects for the navaids are in various bgl files.

You can exclude any scenery object associated with the navaid but you cannot exclude the actual transmitter.

We can only assume Microsoft placed navaids so they could not be moved since the Victor and Jet Airways are attached to a VOR or a companion VOR named Waypoint. If you zoom in and look real close at the stock VOR HLG you will see the HLG WAYPOINT that Jet airway A1 and W4 are attached too.

If you move the HLG VOR and HL NDB they will duplicate and FS will crash if you open the Map Mode/GPS. This is just one reason ADE does not allow moving many different types of Navaids and reads the stock which is locked.

So the question is,

Can a Navaid be moved? Yes with a good knowledge of where all the data is located, what utilities are needed to access the bgl's, working with XML, validating the XML so the stock bgl's do not become corrupt and use of compilers that will show any error codes.
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That's true. From SDK, an airway route is defined under a waypoint with its previous and next waypoints.

I've tried a BGL with new HLG VOR provided from others years ago, it makes map mode "whole black". After decompiled, I found it contains only VOR and NDB. So this time I added the waypoints of HLG, the route A1 / W4 (need to declare duplicated waypoints of APU, MKG, and TNN), and I'm surprised this worked without any problem in map mode or GPS.

Back to my original problem, to construct an approach related to new HLG VOR, however, I have to make another duplicated one in ADE in each airport since ADE cannot reference to a file like this. To simplify the question, is it possible to make new created navaids "seen" by all nearby airports in ADE?
 
I use both the fixes and navaids update. However I do not use the built in map mode. I use PFPX or any other map program for my needs. One does generally not need the default map anyways.
 
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