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FSX C172 Engine Fire effect not visible from cockpit

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I just noticed that when an engine fire happens using the default Cessna 172 if you are on the virtual cockpit you NEVER get to see any indication that the engine is on fire. No smoke, no fire, nothing.

If on the other hand you change your visual to the OUTSIDE of the cockpit then you see the effect, a LOT of smoke and fire coming out of the underside of the engine.

Any ideas how to fix that so that the user can see it from inside the cockpit?
 
lordofwings said:
I just noticed that when an engine fire happens using the default Cessna 172 if you are on the virtual cockpit you NEVER get to see any indication that the engine is on fire. No smoke, no fire, nothing.

If on the other hand you change your visual to the OUTSIDE of the cockpit then you see the effect, a LOT of smoke and fire coming out of the underside of the engine.

Any ideas how to fix that so that the user can see it from inside the cockpit?
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Hi Lordofwings!

Sounds like to me that they did not attach the effect to the interior model. To get it to work if this is what they did not do. Is to make a new interior model and attach the effect.

Thanks, Kris
 
I noticed that not only the default C172 suffers from that problem but also the default Beechcraft Baron, don't know about the others. The fire is visible from outside but you cannot see it through the cockpit windows...

How can I attach it to the interior model?
 
lordofwings said:
I noticed that not only the default C172 suffers from that problem but also the default Beechcraft Baron, don't know about the others. The fire is visible from outside but you cannot see it through the cockpit windows...

How can I attach it to the interior model?
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You will have to completely make a new interior model for that aircraft. Then you can attach the effect to your new interior model.

Thanks, Kris
 
Hi Emilio:

Remember that if this is for your own personal use, you could back up FS' default C-172, then edit a COPY in MCX with Attached Object Editor:

[FSX install path]\SimObjects\Airplanes\C172\model\cessna172sp_interior.mdl


Hope this helps ! :)

GaryGB
 
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Hum... beyond my understanding, I will have to live without it. I have no idea how the ACES team let this fault go unnoticed.
 
Hi again:

Bear in mind that one may have such fire Effects triggered as a result of Gauges and how the engine is over-stressed during user operation ...when aircraft realism is fully activated in the FSX menu as seen in the (default ?) P-51 Racer.

http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/showthread.php?250252-Problems-flying-FSX-Mustang

http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/showthread.php?214367-my-P51-engines-get-on-fire-after-taking-off


Alternatively one may manually trigger such fire Effects via the aircraft Smoke System key (I), as cited in this downloadable example package:

http://205.252.250.27/simviation/download.php?ID=9514


Fire%20small2.png-thumb.jpg


FSX/FS2004 Severe Wing Fire Effect

2.09Mb (4621 downloads)
FSX/FS2004 severe wing fire effect. This is made for the FSX/FS9 Default Boeing 747-400 but you can use it for other aircraft. Includes Big wing fire and Small wing fire effect. NOTE-*Not tested in FSX but should work* By Claudio Pizzirani

Posted 2010-06-07 04:58:50 by Claudio Pizzirani

Fire%20Big2.png-thumb.jpg




Or one may use either FSUIPC or SimConnect to toggle display of a ex: engine fire:

http://forum.simflight.com/topic/56598-starting-an-engine-fire-with-fsuipc/


Hope this helps a bit more ! :)

GaryGB
 
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I can display the engine fire although it seems to have some glitches. The problem being actually that when the engine fire is on, it is only visible if you are viewing the a/c from outside but from within the VC absolutely none of the fire effects (seen from outside) become visible, no fire no smoke, not ahead, not on the sides (twin engines or mono engine). From the VC it looks as if absolutely nothing is happening.
 
Hi Emilio:

Have you tried using an open cockpit aircraft ex: FS default AirCreation_582SL or a Biplane etc. to see if wind screen 'material properties' may be what disables fire Effect visibility inside the VC ? :scratchch

Also, I'm wondering if the "Effect emitting an Effect" Type-26 might work better ? :idea:

You may wish to examine these default Effect (*.FX) files: ;)

[FSX install path]\Effects\Cntrl_fireworks.fx
[FSX install path]\Effects\FW_Controller.fx
[FSX install path]\Effects\FW_show1.fx
[FSX install path]\Effects\FW_show2.fx
[FSX install path]\Effects\FW_show3.fx
[FSX install path]\Effects\FW_show4.fx


https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc526969.aspx#Emitter



Since we can see Effect lights at airports, and fireworks in the sky from aircraft VC interior MDLs, it would seem likely we may be able to see other Effect types from the VC as well, if we can identify what *.Fx file parameters / values or wind screen material attributes are required to enable full visibility within a aircraft "interior MDL".

Thus, it might merit further experimentation to find a way to successfully enable visibility of a fire effect on an engine from within the VC. :)

GaryGB
 
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