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FS2004 Creating hi-res photoscenery with Sbuilder

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Good afternoon,

I am having, for quite some time now, problems with creation of high resolution photoscenery in Sbuilder.

I have tried to use flatten, at different settings, but with no effect. So far the only way I have at least partially successed is textured polygon. However, this method has several disadvantages, such as the fact, that it hides AFCAD, and that I can not use it to show seasonal textures.

Therefore I would like to ask you to help me solve my problems.

Area I need to fill with high resolution photos is part of 10 LOD13 squares, arranged in 2 by 5 rectangle. Underlying bitmap is rather bigger than this area, and may be used for standart resolution scenery later.

What I need, is a photo scenery, that has a resolution of 1.2m/px, seasonal variations and shows AFCAD, or, at least its lights (as actual rwy, twys, apns and such are planned to be made in gmax, but we would like standart lights).

Could the problem be, that I tried flattens at heights of 230 and 231 meters, while ADE gives me 230.1something? Is it possible to apply seasonal variations to textured polys? Is it possible to make high-res scenery show AFCAD?

Thank you.
 
OK, so I got to this point by setting both flatten and AF2 altitude to the same height of 230m precisely. I have tried with textures in both texture folder adjacent to scenery folder in which photoscenery bgl is, and in scenery/world/texture folder. Is either the right place, or should I put them elsewhere?

I guess that spike is a matter of LOD sqare being bigger than flatten.
 

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talking to myself... never mind.

So, after fiddling with different things, I came back to this photo scenery thing.
I looked into SCASM files, and I cant see why they would not show up, if textured polygon does. There are some differences in material list, but I wouldnt know if those cause it... can someone take a look?

Textured polygon:

Code: 
Header( 1 50 48 22 20 )
LatRange( 48 50 )

; Textured Poly # 1

Area( 5 48.67492879 21.23291989 50 )
LayerCall( :lcall 4 )
Jump( : )
:lcall
RefPoint( 2 :return 1 48.67492879 21.23291989 E= 230.13000488 v1= 15000 v2= 1038 )
BGLVersion( 0800 )
TextureList( 0 
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SetMaterial( 0 0 )
DrawTriList( 0 
       002 001 000
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EndVersion
:return
Return
EndA

Photo scenery polygon

Code: 
; High Resolution Photo # 1

Area( B 48.66394043 21.24755859 50 )
LayerCall( :lcall 0 )
Jump( : )
:lcall
RefPoint( 2 :return 1 48.66394043 21.24755859 E= 0230.1000000 v1= 5000 v2= 1200 )
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     256 FF 255 255 255 0 50.000000 011232130321030_1024_Lm.bmp
       6 FF 255 255 255 0 50.000000 011232130321030_1024_Wi.bmp
     256 FF 255 255 255 0 50.000000 011232130321030_1024_Lm.bmp
       6 FF 255 255 255 0 50.000000 011232130321030_1024_Hw.bmp
     256 FF 255 255 255 0 50.000000 011232130321030_1024_Lm.bmp
       6 FF 255 255 255 0 50.000000 011232130321030_1024_Su.bmp
     256 FF 255 255 255 0 50.000000 011232130321030_1024_Lm.bmp
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:not_spring
IfVarRange( :not_fall 38A 263 355 )
   SetMaterial( 0 2 )
   Jump( :draw )
:not_fall
IfVarRange( :not_winter1 38A 356 366 )
   SetMaterial( 0 4 )
   Jump( :draw )
:not_winter1
IfVarRange( :not_winter 38A 0 76 )
   SetMaterial( 0 4 )
   Jump( :draw )
:not_winter
IfVarRange( :not_hwinter1 38A -1 366 )
   SetMaterial( 0 6 )
   Jump( :draw )
:not_hwinter1
IfVarRange( :not_hwinter 38A 0 -1 )
   SetMaterial( 0 6 )
   Jump( :draw )
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   SetMaterial( 0 8 )
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Hi,

You would normally put all bgl files in the scenery folder of your project. Don't put them in the default folders, that makes it a mess.

Do you have elevation data loaded? I believe SBuilder uses that to set the height of the highres polygons.
 
Every bgl concerning project is put in a working scenery folder, I tried textures both at generic folder (scenery/world/texture or something like that) and in folder adjacent to scenery bgls.

Elevation data is set by Sbuilder to 230.1 upon a 230m flatten polygon.

I just noticed that photoscenery has a layercall of 0, compared to 4 of textured polygon though. I will try to change this right away, and see what will it do.
 
Hi,
That's probably since the apron is on top of the photo layer. I noticed in the SCASM file that the elevation is indeed 230 meter. Are you sure you did not set 230 feet in AFCAD?
 
Yay! It works now!

Thanks for help though. Now just to get rid of the spike... and fiddle with visibility a bit.

Also, I found the answer to usable runway lights... we will use invisible SCASM runway. Still have to figure out taxiways though.
 
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Some problems showed up. Any idea how to get rid of them, please?
 

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Question, if someone where to alter the scasm file so that autogen is not removed using the high resolution would it work ? if so where can I put the command and what kind of command? would the normal FS2002 SDK polygons hack command work?
 
Hi,

No the usual tweaking (which is using LayerCall commands in SCASM) does not change the removal of the autogen. For that you would need to add a dummy (empty) RefPoint commmand at the end of every Area block. This empty RefPoint command would have latitude, longitude and scale 0.
 
thanks for your response Arno, here is the scm file for the photo

; High Resolution Photo # 2

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LayerCall( :lcall 4 )
Jump( : )
:lcall
RefPoint( 2 :return 1 25.54895020 -80.77490234 E= 0000.0000000 v1= 25000 v2= 1200 )
BGLVersion( 0800 )
TextureList( 0
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256 FF 255 255 255 0 50.000000 004123202110203_1024_Lm.bmp
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MaterialList( 0 0.10 0.80 0.20 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 )
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SetMaterial( 0 0 )
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EndVersion
:return
Return
EndA
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What can I put and where?

thanks
 
Last edited:
I would try like this:

Code: 
EndVersion
RefPoint( 7 :return 0 0 0 v1= 0 v2= 0 )
:return
Return

While working on the ModelConverterX code I found out that this tweak does not work correctly if there are too many polygons in an Area block. But your code does not look that complex.
 
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