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P3D v4 No Jetway Here Message in GSX

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Hi mike,

I just recently updated the KLGA airport file using ADE. I edited the jetway gate numbers because the developer had it all wrong. Most all of them were wrong. Even the gate numbers marked on the tarmac were wrong but I have those remapped now. I replaced my corrected ADE airport file into the addon scenery folder and now when I load P3Dv4, GSX says "No jetways here." When I placed the original AFCAD file back into the scenery folder to see if that would correct the problem, the jetways worked and I was able to use the jetways using GSX. When I place my edited airport file again, the message "No jetway here" showed up in GSX. The jetways at this airport are SODE jetways. So, there's something about my airport file that is causing this message to come up in GSX. Maybe the xml needs to be edited because it doesn't match the airport file but I cannot find the xml anywhere in the SODE folder. I can find the SimObjects folder for KLGA in the ProgramData\12bPilot\SODE folder but in the XML folder, there is no xml for KLGA, and that is very strange to me. The SODE jetways will work when I have the origianl AFCAD file in the scenery folder. I don't understand why there's no KLGA xml file in the xml folder. I was trying to find the xml file to see if anything needs editing. This is the only thing I can think of that would cause the "No jetway here" message to appear in GSX. Is there anything, other than the xml that could cause this?

Ken.
 
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Hi Ken,

I don't have GSX.
But only one seems to work in P3D, either SODE-Jetway or GSX-Jetways.
So it could be possible that GSX removes the xml from SODE.

There should be a gsx (ini) file from the airport (KLGA) under AppData\virtuali\.
Perhaps this ini file also needs to be edited.

All I can say about SODE is that no SODE objects are displayed without SODE xml.
This is because the SODE xml defines where a particular object is displayed.
And the SODE xml must then be adapted to the new gates.
A list of which old gate has been given a new number would be useful here.
Otherwise it is very easy to lose track in the xml.

There may still be a SODE xml in the installation folder of the airport.
 
Hi Mike,

I think I have this figured out now, after spending a lot of time trying to understand why there is no SODE xml file for this airport. Drzewiecki Design, the developers who created this airport, does not use the xml for their SODE jetways. Here's what was posted a few years ago in their forum:

"Where do I find the SODE .xml? all files have been installed but I chose not to install SODE since I'm running the latest version. I tried to dock jetways to my plane but it says "no facilities found" and in the xml folder in ProgramData is no .xml for any of the NY airports."

Here is their reply:
"Actually we do not use any XML files at all in our products."

So how do they do it? They use a file extension called .sdx, which is exacly the file that's found in SODE. From what I understand, it's the encrypted version of the xml. This makes me angry because I'm not able to edit it. First of all, these gates have never been changed at La Guardia since the remodeling of the new terminal. They have always had the same gate numbers and parking spots. The problem is that the developers at Drzewiecki Design got them all wrong and apparently made up their own gate numbers and parkding spots. Even the terminal names is wrong. I for one don't like spending money on a product then come to find out that there are many things wrong with it, and I'm sure others don't either. And on top of that, they do everything possible to keep one from editing the sdx file, and there is no reason for it. I've mentioned that editing the parking spots in ADE will cause GSX to say "No jetway here." All jetways with numbers 1 through 17 work fine. Jetways with numbers 18 or higher will cause GSX to say "No jetway here," apparently because those jetway numbers do not exist in the .sdx file. When I replace the original airport file, all the jetways work and can be operated. But the original airport file have the wrong gate numbers. So, apparently, there is missing information that must be added to the .sdx file. I'm not saying that this is what's happening, but from what I've read and searched, that appears to be the case. Would you know anything about the .sdx file and is there a way I can open and edit the sdx file?

Ken.
 
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Hi Ken,

I had a look at the KLGA_X.sdx.

And I noticed that sdx is a container format (similar to zip).
Which in this case is also password protected.
In this container is the xml which SODE needs.

Drzewiecki Design probably uses sdx to protect their product.
However, they must have a way to temporarily unpack the sdx file when using it in the simulator.

Because SODE cannot read the sdx file.

Whether the sdx file is unpacked into a hidden/temporary folder during installation, or whether Drzewiecki Design does it via the PC's online connection, is beyond my knowledge.

According to your post, the AFCAD also seems to play a role.
And to correspond with the sdx file.

Normally, with a SODE xml, it does not matter whether the SODE jetway designation corresponds to the AFCAD.

Drzewiecki Design no longer seems to make any changes in this respect.


Depending on how important the exact jetways are to you, you can also place the jetways for your modified AFCAD yourself.
The SODEPlacer program is available for this purpose.

Download link and instructions can be found here: “https://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/sodeplacer-v0-6.442264/”

However, it will certainly be very time-consuming, as it is not just a few isolated jetways.


I'm sorry that I can't help you here.
 
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