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P3D update 1.4....a hassle?

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This is an update not an upgrade. Uninstalling should not be necessary. But apparently that´s what they ask you to do.....am more disappointed by this sim as time passes. Oh their clouds look like FS9 at least!!!:mad::mad:
 
And complaining here is going to fix it? Good gosh, be happy that there is at least a team still updating the engine. Prepar3D is FSX. The clouds are no different. If you think they are, check again, because they aren't.

The way I see it, if someone complains, they can do better. You must know all about sims. Why don't you make one how you want it? It can't possibly be that difficult...
 
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n4gix said:
Oh for Pete's sake! Don't be such a Drama Queen... :duck:
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C'mon Bill - we're latins, we were brought up under the influence of the telenovelas; our politics, our world THRIVES on drama!

Or do I have to sic the Inspector on you?
 
I am greatful for Prepar3D. It has extended the life of simming with FS format planes and scenery. They seek to always use FSX and FS2004 models compatability in the sims future. They are constantly updating it. They are creating updates constantly, BIG updates that require totally reloading the sim so that no legacy files will keep the new updates from working.

I am very happy with it.



FSX was a nightmare. I would go back to FS9 before FSX. I pray I will never have to go back to FS9 as I really love what P3 is.
 
Jesus Peres!!!!!...I state a fact for NO sim is perfect, nothing is perfect as far as I can tell...You´ll are technical people no??? do you find that at this stage of programming technology for an update you have to do a complete install????...and to whoever suggest I go make a Sim because I stated a Fact!!! should think twice if am all that wrong and make that uncalled for statement (I told you Flight would be a dud) . By the way I contribute my share to our hobby if you don´t know (Search for Gera on the regular download places). .....Ok. This is like politics today. You criticize the popular Guru who is not delivering and you get bawled out!!!!.....let get real. And yes we Latins see both ways, we have been spanked by big brother too much in the past, no more though!!!! we have grown up too....anyway I´ll wait until a really good update turns up before I jump and start all over with the sim.....Salud!!!!:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
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FelixFFDS said:
C'mon Bill - we're latins, we were brought up under the influence of the telenovelas; our politics, our world THRIVES on drama!

Or do I have to sic the Inspector on you?
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hahahaha, Feliciano!!!!....No way, I have never seen a Telenovela, that´s what keeps a lot of stupid Latinos Dumb!!!! our politics have been a wreck for ages but luckily or otherwise many of our little countries have begun to see the light like This one am sitting on!!!!..we don´t even have a 2% unemployment rate while some biggies are way up there today no???...another Fact!!! we are building one of the most important structures in the world for the benefit of the world!!! and we are very proud of that, Google the country if you don´t believe me. And what´s the DRAMA?? in my stated Fact!!!!!!...by the way I can see Drama up North as a day to day occurrence now days, another fact..we have a very good SS system that covers everyone without bankrupting the country even though many still cry about it like good Americanos (we are you know)......So in order of peaceful coexistence I will not criticize the New Guru...it is perfect!!!!....:cool::cool:..OH Feliciano, this country is the Third in the whole wide world to interdict, capture and destroy more kilos of drug shipments to the north, the rest say they follow (???).....we are doing fine, No Drama here......You watch Telenovelas???
 
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Oy veh! The simple fact is that one could probably install the P3D v1.4 without "uninstalling" the previous version first...

...but, given the nature of Vista's and Win7's overly agressive "nanny-state" protections, the chances are pretty good that some of the new files would have permission issues, and hence not install correctly, which in turn means that there's no guarantee that P3D will run properly (if at all).

Given this, a totally clean "first time" install of v1.4 will almost certainly be successful, leading to fewer support headaches in the long run. :D

My dos centavos... :twocents:
 
You get what you pay for.
Nobody is forcing you to INSTALL 1.4 -- it's your choice.

Condidering the vast amount of time you spend, messing with Flight Simulators, its it really such a big deal, to INSTALL a "clean" NEW Version every 6 months.

I hear you say -- BUT !!! I then have to install ALL my addons !!
DO YOU REALLY.

Every 6 months is a good time to evaluate which of those ADDINS you really want to use, and give them a chance to perform correctly, without being affected by a load of unnecessary, out of date addons, that you you keep carring over from years ago.

As in REAL LIFE, sometimes a FRESH START is often a GOOD thing, even if it does require a little work.
 
Geoff_D said:
You get what you pay for.
Nobody is forcing you to INSTALL 1.4 -- it's your choice.

Condidering the vast amount of time you spend, messing with Flight Simulators, its it really such a big deal, to INSTALL a "clean" NEW Version every 6 months.

I hear you say -- BUT !!! I then have to install ALL my addons !!
DO YOU REALLY.

Every 6 months is a good time to evaluate which of those ADDINS you really want to use, and give them a chance to perform correctly, without being affected by a load of unnecessary, out of date addons, that you you keep carring over from years ago.

As in REAL LIFE, sometimes a FRESH START is often a GOOD thing, even if it does require a little work.
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Of all the comments I find yours to be a good one and with the best logic...Thanks.;) and like you say I am skipping this "Re-Install all Update":)
 
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I don't get the point of a mandatory reinstallation, too.

Binaries only would be cool...nothing worse than an autoinstaller.
 
The support issues that 'Binaries only' would create would be mind-boggling.

You would think it would be simple .... But I guarantee you it wouldn't be.

An updated file set would be easier, and preferable, but I guess they saw it as a chance to clean out the junk.

Guessing 2.0 will be a fresh install....

Not worth ranting about, however IMO. I have had many worse tech software experiences (cough, Norton AV).


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That does make sense Geoff. As much as we use them, it would be like rebuilding an aircraft engine after so many hours of flight time. Clean and pure.


I was thinking, earlier, how nice it would be to automate reloading of addons.

For instance, if you knew what all parts were in Prepar3D, and you subtracted those from the total, you would have all your addon files (like a reverse version of an uninstaller).

So, you could select all of the non-stock P3 files and make a Disc file, (ASA or something? I forget what an Image is called). Every so often, create a new Disc Image, saving all the parts of the new Prepar3D.

Then, when have to reload the entire thing, burn the Image (goes fairly quick if I am correct), save the My Documents sections (2) to a desktop folder, then delete all the P3 works, install the newest P3 version, and then when its been run tested, then install the disc image of the addons. They should go right back into the package.

The only thing you would need to do is update the DLL.XML list.




Bill
 
From the "FWIW Department" several folks have reported no issues with simply installing v1.4 over their existing v1.3...:cool:
 
as the video states:

Note that the quality of P3D rendering is higher than FSX, but clearly at the cost of frame rates
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So we're comparing apples with bananas. Perhaps the settings need to be adjusted so that they look the same.

The key here is ongoing development of the platform, rather than any perceived rendering differences or not.

Incidentally, many seem to find P3D better, although apparently not all 1.4 users.
 
UtahJazzfan said:
After everything I read and saw I am very interested in trying Prepar after I get my FS dedicated SSD.
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i wouldnt place too much faith in a dramatic performance increase using SSD's. You will find that unless the data transfer rate on your motherboard and other hardware is up to the task (which im yet to find one that is), it is a pointless excecise and a complete and utter waste of money buying SSD's at this stage!

One would be better to invest money in the fastest CPU's one can buy at this point in time!

As for the critics of Prepar3d, i wouldn't pay too much attention to the rubbish they spin. I would say they are probably die hard xplane fans having a "political winge" anyway!

I have found the Xplane community to be almost as narrow minded as a lot of people are with politics! (To be honest, i reckon they would still vote for the same party even if it shot them in the foot and stole half their possessions:p)

When you have taken over a product with a programming code history dating back to the 80's, it will take a number of years to update all of that and move into the 64 bit era as well (its an enormous task)...remembering that L/M is predominantly military research and design focused.

My view is, the ideal option for us, would be an open source version of prepar3d. that would allow the development process to be far more user oriented and less restricted by the security of military research and design secrets and the like!
 
adamjedgar said:
i wouldnt place too much faith in a dramatic performance increase using SSD's.
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As an SSD convert on a few systems, I'll respectfully disagree.

One needs to be clear what "performance" increase you are talking about.

An SSD will dramatically improve loading / seek times in FSX and an SSD system drive will improve O/S responsiveness.

This DOES equate with improved tile loading times and small latency improvements in the sim. It does not equate with increased fluidity / FPS or other general performance.

You need to be careful which controller you connect it to, as some on-board controllers are ..... not very good. (cough, JMicron, Giga-raid)
 
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