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Hi,
While moving an airport and associated runway the markings (ie. idents, centerline, theshholds, etc.) all
initially were present in FSX. However after I added runway "turnarounds" at the ends of the runway, all
of these markings vanished. And I am no longer able to apply them.. Did I do something wrong here ?
I have tried removing the turnarounds and recompiling. I've also deleted the runway and recreated it
(then recompiled), but I haven't figured this out yet and any suggestions will be appreciated.
Thank you,
Ken
 
Sounds to me something may be covering them up, like a ground polygon? Attaching the AD4 file might help? Along with more details (which runway, etc.).
 
Hi Tom,
Thank you for your reply, and for offering help. The ad4 is attached. It's a fairly simple
project. >> An atoll in the French Polynesian Islands that I found floating a fur piece
from where it should be. I verified the real world location using Google Earth and
moved the "USS" NTKM to dry land on the Takume Atoll. I have fidgeted with many
airports / runways similar to this one and not witnessed this Rwy marking "fail" before.
The runway idents are 13 and 31 asphalt, and as mentioned above, I'd love to get some
idents, a centerline and threshold markings to "appear" ~:)
I've never successfully used / applied polygons. It is art form that has eluded me
thus far. But I hope to "get after it" one day soon. Do you know of any worthwhile
tutorials dealing with ADE and Polys' ?
Please let me know if any additional info is needed.
Ken
 

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I just converted another French Polynesian Island, Hikeuru airport (NTGH) from coral surface to asphalt.
No problems with markings (so far) >> The real world NTGH is asphalt now.
Now I am going to add some aprons and some other minor details ~:) AND hope that the markings
don't mysteriously vanish like they did during the NTKM mod.
Ken
NTGH_Mod_1.jpg
 
Sometimes moving airports can be tricky. If the new location has a different elevation, weird things can happen.

To fix this I used Tools/Change Airport Reference Data and raised the elevation from 6.998 ft to 7 ft. Yes, just a tiny bit. This creates a stub file in the FSX/Scenery/World folder with the new elevation. This file needs to be included in any release. I also changed the elevation of the airport background polygon.

Hope this helps,
 
Thank you for the very helpful instructions Tom. I followed your instructions (above) exactly,
and the runway markings appeared (screen cap below) . Some of this stuff just seems magical;
but I am taking notes ~:)
Many thanks,
Ken
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Hi Tom,
I've already successfully used this technique three times since you shared it a few days ago. Great stuff !!
(and I am gathering the stub files as I go ~:)
Thank you again.
Ken
:)
 
Hello to all, not sure if I arrived at the right place for my question. I am trying to fix SAMR (freeware).
Well, I found the taxiway joined from the apron to the runway is not visible as per AFCAD. I can see the 2 taxiways with ADE but not in the sim. Is there a way to tell something to ADE? Maybe elevation or to do flatten, etc.?
(check all screenshots).
Patricio Valdes
 

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Try sliding an apron underneath the runways. That will flatten that area.
 
Very interesting technique Tom. Not sure about the software process, but I've noticed that whenever I place an apron adjacent
to a Rwy, it very conveniently slips it's edges underneath the edge of the Rwy yielding a nice clean joining (with no fuss on my part ~:)
Ken
 
I edited SAMR Afcad via ADE following Tom and I think I got it (Screenshot). Thanks Tom! But I think another enthusiast can do it better.
SAMR Afcad is here if needed to edit the taxiways.

Patricio Valdes
 

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Glad you got it fixed.

Ken,

FS has a priority that it follows when displaying overlapping objects. I think this is it? So as long as you follow the rules, you can display what you need.
Runway Markings
Taxiway Markings
Runways
Taxiways
Aprons
 
Yes, now it is much better. I will see if I can change the apron surface.

Patricio Valdes
 

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Great info Tom !!
Thanks again for the very useful tips.
From this thread, I've added several very useful
items to my ( growing ~:) collection of ADE notes.
Ken
 
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