FS2004 Upside down problem

[saudi falcon]

Hello every one I am glad to be one of the members of this forum
and i want to thank mr jon the adminstrator for helping me to register
and i want to thank mr arno for his help for every one asking and the other staff

I have small problem in the gmax and realy i got alot of good ideas for dealing wiht gmax and CAT after reading the posts of your forum

my problem is the upside down with the objects exported from gmax to fs2004
I have followed your Tutorials and doing good with them but in this case i do not know what to do :

for example if i creat a box and export it in fs9 it will be upside down
but if i rotate it before exporting it and after that export it it will be ok and in right position

I hope my problem is clear for you I need help how to fix this problem or what is the right settings before i start working in gmax

thank you very much for all of you and sorry if you find any mistakes in my language

 

[arno]

Hi,

What do you exactly mean with upside down? Maybe you can post a screenshot. Because the object should be exported as it is in GMax.

Two things come to my mind here:

You mention animations. If you have transparent objects and animation together, parts of the object can be displaced.

If you use the mirror button in GMax, your object can be exported inverted (inside-out).

But I am not sure if that is what you are experiencing.

 

[saudi falcon]

Welcom mr arno thank you for your reply I really appreciate it
Sir what i mean it both as static object or animated
here are the pictures :

in this picture i export it as it is and see it in fs9 upside down

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in this picture after rotating the object it is in the right position

i may get used to rotating them every time but when i tried to make animation for a jetway
and rotate it the bones came out away from the jetway
and here my test for some cars of ground services i made them but i had rotated all of them before i export them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3pNx5TNbC4

and my steps for putting them in fs :
mdl to bgl by using LibraryCreatorXML
and putting them by ez-scenery

all what i need how to export them without rotating ?

 

[hcornea]

i may get used to rotating them every time but when i tried to make animation for a jetway
and rotate it the bones came out away from the jetway

Uh oh. If we're talking FS2004, then Skin/Bones animations are not supported.

With regard to the "upside down problem":

If you have used a mirror tool, or have a translation applied elsewhere in the model, the exporter will produce different results to what you are seeing in Gmax.

Try Hierarchy | Reset Transform
Hierarchy | Reset Transform

See what effect this has on your model

You could also Apply a Reset Xform modifier and see if this helps.

 

[saudi falcon]

Uh oh. If we're talking FS2004, then Skin/Bones animations are not supported.

With regard to the "upside down problem":

If you have used a mirror tool, or have a translation applied elsewhere in the model, the exporter will produce different results to what you are seeing in Gmax.

Try Hierarchy | Reset Transform
Hierarchy | Reset Transform

See what effect this has on your model

You could also Apply a Reset Xform modifier and see if this helps.

hi mr hcornea thank's for reply
about skin and bones i could make a jetway which was an api macro and it worked very well and controled it by CAT but it aslo was upside down
and about the mirror tool i never use it and also i tried your Suggestions but nothing hapen

i hope finding solution for that i'm still trying

 

[tgibson]

Hi,

Try exporting a simple object without bones and see if it exports OK. If so, then that may be your problem...

 

[saudi falcon]

Hi,

Try exporting a simple object without bones and see if it exports OK. If so, then that may be your problem...

Hello tgibson thank you for your help I realy did that but nothing hapen
I will uninstall the gmax and install it again and will try.

 

[saudi falcon]

Finaly i could solve it
the problem was from :

makemdl.cfg

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[Options]
Keep=1
NegateZ=0
Optimize=0

I have changed the value of Negate from 0 to 1

[Options]
Keep=1
NegateZ=1
Optimize=0

and now it is working ok
thank you all for replying my posts and I really appreciate taht

 

[tgibson]

Odd, most of us don't have to do that...

But if it works for you, do it!

 

[n4gix]

Odd, most of us don't have to do that...

But if it works for you, do it!

Since I use MakeModel/Model Commander for aircraft, I long ago set Negate-Z=1 as the default.

Since I use the MakeMDL.cfg file for scenery, I set up Negate-Z=1 in that file when I first installed it.

 

[tgibson]

I don't have that set and my objects (both scenery and aircraft using MDL Commander and Middleman) turn out just fine. Odd indeed...

 

[n4gix]

I don't have that set and my objects (both scenery and aircraft using MDL Commander and Middleman) turn out just fine. Odd indeed...

Tom, run the MakeMDL.exe (Middle Man v1.3), click on the Options tab, then see if NegateZ has a check mark next to it.

 

[tgibson]

That could be possible indeed. But my scenery objects do not run through Middleman nor MDL Commander and I don't have Negate-Z = 1 in there, just Crash=0, as I remember...

I'll recheck though.