MSFS ADE 2020 Alpha 20 Released

[rhumbaflappy]

Can you compare the project files from both versions? I'm suspecting the new MSFS version is at fault.

 

[Dave Edwards]

Can you compare the project files from both versions? I'm suspecting the new MSFS version is at fault.

Yes Lots of the stock buildings are the same

 

[Ironpot]

Yes I concur. I have an airport in Dev and the same in ADE and both show terminal default buildings as basically “buggered”. They’re now giant and then sometimes smaller, then big again. It’s been since the SU5
Check where my Gate sign is - should be on the end of the building. This time when I started MSFS, the building has shrunk....

and this one has grown

No point in moving the signs because the terminals keep changing size

 

[scruffyduck]

Building a project using alpha 20 results in missing default terminal building parts for an airport that builds without this problem using alpha 19. The same project file was used for both. See pictures below:

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alpha 19............................................................alpha 20

What caused this?

Not sure and this is done with the same version of the sim (the compilers are in the sim) How big is the project - can you send it to me?

 

[scruffyduck]

Yes I concur. I have an airport in Dev and the same in ADE and both show terminal default buildings as basically “buggered”. They’re now giant and then sometimes smaller, then big again. It’s been since the SU5
Check where my Gate sign is - should be on the end of the building. This time when I started MSFS, the building has shrunk....
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and this one has grown
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No point in moving the signs because the terminals keep changing size

Do you think this is something to do with the compilers then?

 

[Ironpot]

Hi Jon. No I think it’s MSFS itself. Both versions of mine compile ok but each version I use in the Community folder have unexpected results with the Terminals. In addition, their Lat/Lon seems slightly off so when placing lines and points they seem to float left and right. In Dev mode, the airport ground breaks apart with levels of land lifting and falling. I sometimes have to quit and start again. I believe it’s SU5 and how they overlay.
I don’t believe this is an ADE issue nor the DEV mode compilers. The result is the same in both to me

 

[scruffyduck]

Hi Jon. No I think it’s MSFS itself. Both versions of mine compile ok but each version I use in the Community folder have unexpected results with the Terminals. In addition, their Lat/Lon seems slightly off so when placing lines and points they seem to float left and right. In Dev mode, the airport ground breaks apart with levels of land lifting and falling. I sometimes have to quit and start again. I believe it’s SU5 and how they overlay.
I don’t believe this is an ADE issue nor the DEV mode compilers. The result is the same in both to me

Thanks Philip. SU5 is proving to be a nightmare. If any of you frequent the official MSFS forums you will see there is almost a riot going on. Sadly it has turned tribal with PC users blaming the XBox release for bombing performance (and who knows what else). Hopefully it will settle down

 

[Ironpot]

Actually, I think I may have found something in ADE20.... Regarde:

(This is two-way) The XML is straight from DEV and obviously, the same Apron in ADE. Notice:
Lat in ADE is rounding up
Lon in ADE is dropping the last 2 digits
Priority transposes as 10000003 yet I set them as 2 in DEV mode.... Why is that??? I cannot change the priority in ADE (that might just be me)

Could this be the tiny movement someone complained of?

 

[scruffyduck]

Haven't changed the way ADE stores lat/lon values in many years. The priority might be a bug since I recall that number in the code. I will have to check. So setting priority to 2 in Dev Mode gets picked up by ADE as 1000.... ?

 

[Ironpot]

This is my "Flat" airport - ADE opened in DEV (ADE has not caused this).

 

[Ironpot]

So setting priority to 2 in Dev Mode gets picked up by ADE as 1000.... ?

Actually that XML is the one from DEV so it's writing it there. I'm checking it again right now

In ADE this is set to priority 100000003 but the Asphalt shows grey

In DEV I'm changing the priority to 4 and it's written to XML as priority="1000000005" - that's strange. Anything greater than 1 is written this way it appears - Anyway, it shows as correct (Dark Asphalt top left)

Saved DEV project and reloaded ADE:
Priority = "5" !! and still wrong colour

So it seems that 2 = "1000000003" and 3 = "1000000004" and so on...

 

[Ironpot]

I’ve also found the reason why the terminals change height…. Well possibly
My airport now has a slope even though I have a flatten. Seems SU5 had decided to slope it as shown a few posts above

 

[scruffyduck]

Oh bother.

 

[Ironpot]

To which bit

 

[scruffyduck]

To which bit

I am feeling generous so you can have first go at choosing which bit

 

[Ironpot]

Moving goal posts springs to mind

 

[Fernando Angel G]

Tks Jon, you the best....

 

[art209]

Not sure and this is done with the same version of the sim (the compilers are in the sim) How big is the project - can you send it to me?

Resolved. I have two SDK folders, MSFS SDK and MSFS_SDK with the same date but with totally different contents (I don't know why), and the alpha 20 wizard picked the MSFS_SDK folder. My alpha 19 installation references the MSFS SDK folder. When I changed the folder to MSFS SDK in alpha 20 the project built with no issues. The missing terminal parts was the only thing I saw wrong with the other SDK folder reference in ADE.

 

[Ironpot]

This is my "Flat" airport - ADE opened in DEV (ADE has not caused this).

Here's what I'm dealing with in SU5.... That's not me but it explains why the buildings change size

 

[Ironpot]

OK - Seems if I put a Poly inside the terminal and make the Terraforming Falloff distance 1.0000 then the building returns a consistent height. It doesn't need to be the whole building footprint.