Aircraft Do Not Show up

[wbunnell]

Renameing Scenery folders as Scenery1, disables scenery folders. Makes it like there is no scenery folder in the Addon scenery folder.

You can make another scenery for use with differant files.

Forgot to send traffic folder.

 

[gadgets]

Renameing Scenery folders as Scenery1, disables scenery folders. Makes it like there is no scenery folder in the Addon scenery folder.

wbunnel, I was not aware of this. Where did you find this information? A search of FSDeveloper and Avsim forums finds no other mention of this, nor does it seem to be mentioned in the SDK. In any case, I have no idea what your comment "Disconnected both FS9 and FSX by renaming scenery1" means.

Forgot to send traffic folder.

I didn't ask for a traffic folder. Indeed, what you sent was a screenshot of the Traffic Toolbox SDK folder. What I asked you to do was to refer to the SDK for instructions on installing Traffic Toolbox - responding directly to your comment "You will have to tell me where it is".

When you first raised this issue, I suggested you follow the troubleshooting procedure in the User Manual. Barely an hour later your responded:

Checked Trouble Shooting, everything it suggests is done, Aircraft Still don't show.

The first item in that procedure is a recommendation to install Traffic Toolbox (or another traffic analyser) and identifies where to find it. That was 18 posts and several specific questions ago. It would seem, however, you're still having problems even locating Traffic Toolbox Explorer.

We seem to be "spinning our wheels" here. You asked for help. Both George and I confirm there's nothing wrong with your airport (as it relates to AI not showing up) or the traffic file - which narrows the problem down to the configuration of your machine. We suggest you do certain things; you (apparently) do something else. We ask for information about your system; you don't respond.

If you want our help, you're going to have to work WITH us.

Don

 

[wbunnell]

wbunnel, I was not aware of this. Where did you find this information? A search of FSDeveloper and Avsim forums finds no other mention of this, nor does it seem to be mentioned in the SDK. In any case, I have no idea what your comment "Disconnected both FS9 and FSX by renaming scenery1" means.

I didn't ask for a traffic folder. Indeed, what you sent was a screenshot of the Traffic Toolbox SDK folder. What I asked you to do was to refer to the SDK for instructions on installing Traffic Toolbox - responding directly to your comment "You will have to tell me where it is".

When you first raised this issue, I suggested you follow the troubleshooting procedure in the User Manual. Barely an hour later your responded: The first item in that procedure is a recommendation to install Traffic Toolbox (or another traffic analyser) and identifies where to find it. That was 18 posts and several specific questions ago. It would seem, however, you're still having problems even locating Traffic Toolbox Explorer.

We seem to be "spinning our wheels" here. You asked for help. Both George and I confirm there's nothing wrong with your airport (as it relates to AI not showing up) or the traffic file - which narrows the problem down to the configuration of your machine. We suggest you do certain things; you (apparently) do something else. We ask for information about your system; you don't respond.

If you want our help, you're going to have to work WITH us.

Don

I realize that the people that write these programs for Flight Simulator, are doing it for the benefit of the many people who have it as a hobby, or just for fun.

But you have to understand that, a lot of us are not as, computer literate as the maker, and do not understand a lot of programs literature.

A lot of us do the best that we can, it takes a little bit of explaining on a subject before we understand. You have to wonder how many people have downloaded this program, then tossed it on the shelf to try another day.

I realy don't understand why when people make up a program, and expect everyone to understand it.Then they don't supply some kind of a "Check List".
Real Pilot use them, why can't us make believe Pilots have them also.

You requested a shot of My "Traffic Toolbox Explorer" If I knew what your were talking about maybe just maybe I would have given you what you asked for.

I'm not a computer wizard like you, it takes a little bit of explaining on a subject before I understand.

I have been trying to fix a problem with Aircraft not showing up at KOFF,one airport.

The problem lies within the airfield. I don't believe that to hard to understand, the same flightplans if changed to a different airport in the invintory work, they even worked on yours, why would anyone figure that if they don't show up at KOFF there is something wrong with them.

As for trying to work with you, you may not believe it, but I am. maybe if it were explaned a little differant, things would work out differant.

 

[gadgets]

wbunnel, your frustration seems misdirected.

You used AIFP successfully to create a working traffic file. And, based on George's and my testing, it and the new afcad seem to co-exist quite nicely (though we've highlighted a few other afcad issues you might wish to address).

The problem, quite definitely, lies with the airport. However, there are several possible causes - none of which pertain to AIFP.

You asked for our help and we offered it. But, we have to rely on you to be our "hands and eyes". If you don't do what we ask and answer our questions, we're wasting our time.

I don't know about George, but under those circumstances, I've got other things I could be doing.

Don

 

[wbunnell]

wbunnel, your frustration seems misdirected.

You used AIFP successfully to create a working traffic file. And, based on George's and my testing, it and the new afcad seem to co-exist quite nicely (though we've highlighted a few other afcad issues you might wish to address).

The problem, quite definitely, lies with the airport. However, there are several possible causes - none of which pertain to AIFP.

You asked for our help and we offered it. But, we have to rely on you to be our "hands and eyes". If you don't do what we ask and answer our questions, we're wasting our time.

I don't know about George, but under those circumstances, I've got other things I could be doing.

Don

I did not intend for this post to be directed towards you, your post just happened to be the one that tripped my trigger. If you are offended by my post I'm sorry. And maybe you should be doing other things.

My problem is with people that write these program, expect everyone to understand the program as well as they do.

I understand these programs are free, and written to assist other people with problems, but, you have to realize were not all computer whizzes like you or other people that make up these programs.

It would be nice, but then again if we were what would be the reason to ask questions?

 

[gadgets]

Once again, your frustration is misdirected. AIFP didn't cause this problem. Nor did ADE. We know the traffic file and the afcad (to the extent necessary) work and work together.

AIFP and ADE are two of the finest freeware utilities available - well documented with comprehensive error detection. (If only Microsoft had seen fit to do the same.) Neither requires you "to understand the program" as well as their author does. But, they are tools. You decide how to use them and what to use them for. You control the end-product, how it is used and the environment in which it is used. If you hit your thumb when you attempt to drive a nail, is that the fault of the hammer or its maker?

The problem appears to be due to something on your system FSX doesn't "know" how to handle. We remain ready to help you troubleshoot it.

If you want to continue, please install Traffic Toolbox Explorer, answer our questions related to it and carry out the two tests you were asked to do a couple of days ago that involve nothing more than checking and unchecking items in the Scenery Library. BTW, before you do those tests, familiarize yourself with the stock airport so you will be able to recognize it and differentiate between it and some other version of KOFF.

Don

 

[gadgets]

wbunnel, having taken another look at your edited afcad with ADE, I note that the field elevation is 1048'. But, the elevation of the stock airport is 1051'. If you made that change with ADE, ADE would have placed a file named "ADE_FSX_KOFF_elevation_adjustment.bgl" in your FSX\Scenery\World\Scenery folder. Neither George nor I have this file. Consequently, when we ran our tests, the field elevation would have reflected the stock airport.

Since you started this thread, you reported changing the field elevation to 973' to match Google Earth - with rather unsatisfactory results. If you made that change with ADE, presumably it would have placed a new or edited elevation adjustment file in FSX\Scenery\World\Scenery.

I wonder if you've somehow "confused" FSX as to what field elevation it should use. (There were certainly some unusual artifacts indicating that in the 973' screenshot you posted - which, mysteriously, has disappeared from the thread.)

Why don't you (temporarily) disable/delete that file and see what happens.

Don

 

[wbunnell]

The problem is fixed, a simple R+R done the job.

 

[Chris75]

I know this is years ahead and everyone is not caring and Gadget is sadly no more, but I too had the same problem with KOFF AFB.
I tried everything and as a last resort I moved all my traffic files out of fsx, removed any KOFF bgl's and went back to basics. Rebuilt Koff with parking spaces, enough for anyone to need
and then set up a simple flight plan of a Robin parked at a small Ramp GA,
It worked, so I went about reloading, one by one, each traffic bgl and restarting FSX each time until I found the culprit traffic bgl. It happened to be a file named Traffic_KRME.bgl dated Feb 2022. Don't know who's it was but when I looked at it in AIFP 3 it had a lot of problems with aircraft textures, probably on my system. I didn't reload it and KOFF is working fine,
Takes a lot of patience and methodical study but it's worth it.

just like to say a big thankyou to the guys that make these freeware programs. without them the Flight sim world would be boring.

rgd
cj75s

By the way I've been a simmer since FS5! all this years ago. Should have got my pilots license but never got round to it. I think simming's better as if you crash you can walk away!!

C