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A while back we had trouble with the server caused by the wiki software integration. Now we have some spammer active on the wiki.

I think it would be best if we update the software so that it is better integrated in the forum and easier to use.

But before I start to spend time on this, I would like to ask if people still find the wiki useful. It's not so active recently and a look of content is still from the days of fs2004.

So therfore my question, do we still think a wiki is a good way for all of us to write and share tutorials?
 
IMHO the Wiki is extremely useful. Sadly a lot of the articles is quite outdated. For example the scenproc manual seems to be on a 2013 state and has little to do with the current version.

So I think the update should definitely be done to the software as well as the content.
 
The content is from and for everybody, so everybody is encouraged to improve the content.

As far as the scenProc manual goes, it no longer lives in the wiki. A pdf comes with the download.
 
The Wiki is an essential resource, as full of old old stuff as anywhere else on the web, but it's a known place to start looking. Bill Leaming has often remarked how dispersed the knowledge to build for FS is, so where better to collate that info than this dedicated developer's site?

I've used the Wiki more to placemark pdf articles in the Resources, but does anyone know a more comprehensive guide to installing and troubleshooting the FSX sdk than the articles there? It's the standard reference.

When/if Dovetail release their new sim to developers, there's every chance the Wiki will get a lot more activity imo. It's up to us to make the most of it.
 
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I do use the Wiki. I look there first if I want to research something. Recently I updated to the acceleration SDK and the Wiki told me how. Please keep it.

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I have found the wiki to be a very useful reference. I don't use it often but when needed it's great to have it.
 
I value the information we've stored. I agree some is old, but people do still make use of older techniques sometimes, and unless the cost of storage is a problem, I'd like to see the info still available. The wiki format is not as important to me as having the information easy to find.
 
Thanks all for the feedback. Point taken, the wiki is still much appreciated.

Next question would then be how do we make it more attractive for community members to add or improve wiki articles?
 
Er, we're developers Arno; it's not meant to be attractive – or (shudders) easy – it's meant to be possible. It's not that hard either. Lacking knowledge, I just looked at existing articles to see how others had done theirs; cut & paste where appropriate... We have to do that sort of thing in FS developing anyway, comes with the territory.
 
I agree it's not that hard, so why is a lot of the content older (I wrote a lot myself when I still had more time) and why don't we have wiki articles about new techniques and things we use nowadays?
 
Hi,

It is supposed to be a place to add, collect and store knowledge, right?
Would it be possible to add articles there that are found on other sites or at least refer to them?
Just wondering because I have collected a lot of howto's and it would be nice if I and others could add all this info to the Wiki so that it becomes a central storage point.
Even Scruffyduck and Gadgets put a lot of extra info on their own site but not in the Wiki.
 
It's very well possible to write articles containing tips&tricks for popular tools used by FSDev members, but official information written by the developers of said tools (manuals, etc...) does not need to be in the Wiki here.
 
A number of contributors from years past added articles, but are now awfully busy keeping body and soul together. Newer members might be nervous submitting their own findings in this supposedly august company and haven't got the habit yet. There's nothing to fear, I might have a lot of posts and several Wiki items up there but am as ordinary as brown bread.

If you have useful tips and methods, feel free to publish!
 
I rather meant something else.
To give you an example: how to make extrusion bridges (something I always forget). I downloaded a tutorial a long time ago but were I to loose it, I would have no idea where to find it. If it were in the Wiki, it would make things easier, wouldn't it?
 
Yes it would, so give credit to the author if known and publish it.

If Gmax is really on its way out (W10 issues) then the Blender crew ought to be busy too.
 
I don't mind writing some stuff in the future (when I've gained experience), but for me the language is kind of a problem. And you have to find something to write about ;)
 
The wiki is not very intuitive. The "command" language. It took me a while to figure out how to add a new page/article - Search for your page title then if the link is red you can add/start your page. I see a few articles with "to do - Figure out how to format page" as a comment. So I am looking at how the wiki works, then I would like to add some articles myself. Is there a save/preview before publishing, like a web site page?

I find as I get old the number of hours in a day keep getting less and less.:eek:
 
I don't get how markup can be blocking people from writing articles.
This is one of the first results with that new, fancy and totally unknown search engine on the web and it points to that equally unknown other wiki that shamelessly copies the wiki engine used on this site:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wiki_markup

And:
https://www.google.com/#q=wiki+markup

Or go into the "edit" mode of any well marked up article to see the markup commands used in it.
This isn't exactly rocket science a Gamepack installation.

The only actual issues preventing people from writing wiki articles should be time and/or motivation, not the quality of information provided, markup or language barriers. If the information provided in an article is BS, someone more knowledgeable may correct it anytime. If the language is too awful, a Grammar Nazi like me will jump in and improve matters. Bad markup? Let someone else sort it out.
What matters most about the wiki here and any wiki out there is that it's community driven. Anyone can edit it. And since we're not handling any controversial topics here, there isn't even much potential for lengthy discussions about the implications of half a sentence.
So let Shia here drive my point home:
https://media.giphy.com/media/wErJXg1tIgHXG/giphy.gif
 
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